Was I The Only One Impressed By Broner?

[The Big Dunn]

You're right. But there's more ingredients, you gotta be super good and beat a fading superstar. You could say being a jerk is optional.

Broner is making himself relevant-however he goes about it. He is creating heat and making people watch. Thats what you are supposed to do.

[kiaba360]

Broner is making himself relevant-however he goes about it. He is creating heat and making people watch. Thats what you are supposed to do.

He did good ratings for HBO, so clearly his style/personality/Mayweather comparisons are working in his favor. Anybody know what the ratings were this time around??

[HeroBando]

Broner is making himself relevant-however he goes about it. He is creating heat and making people watch. Thats what you are supposed to do.

Can't dispute that. Just saying, there's a ceiling to how far you can go just on the jerk ticket. Floyd had a lot more going on for him.

[DARKSEID]

I was also impressed by AB. Malignaggi is a world champion and a veteran of the game. Not just anyone can beat him, but a 23 year old lightweight in his first fight at 147 outclassed him.

It doesn't matter how many internet trolls hate on the kid, they're not gonna stop him. In fact they're only helping him get bigger.

[itsafight]

Y'all dumbasses defending that abysmal performance need a reality check, this kid has always been a fully fledged welterweight, he just got hyped up because he dominated guys at 130/135lbs who he was naturally much bigger than. When he stepped up to his natural weight class we saw him have a mediocre close decision against a fading weak puncher with good skills.

[New England]

no way. Ive been around both of those guys together and there is no way in hell they are fighting unless they have some freaking Floyd/50 cent type breakup.

I disagree about the Lucas thing because you assumed he ducked the division and I dont. I wouldnt be shocked if he fights there next or his next 2 or 3 fights are there. Just because you take 1 fight doesnt mean you cant do something else. Pac was at LW, fought Oscar at 147, and then fought Hatton at 140 in the next fight.

Just because he goes to WW doesnt mean he will stay there. Sure maybe he did see something in Paulie but so what. His career doesnt end there. He has to fight again soon and most likely it will either be Maidana at WW or someone else at 140-WW.

Even if it is a duck, I dont mind all the time. Fans get to caught up in that. What if they see it as a hard matchup and say "we will fight him but give AB 2 or 3 more fights 1st"? Is that so bad? Its like Chavez Jr. not wanting to fight Sergio. He wasnt ready at all. He had a B.S. title but he clearly wasnt ready. However, 3 fights later he looked a ton better, was ready, and took the fight.

The same could happen with Broner. If he was 30 then it would be a duck but I dont mind someone saying that we should wait a couple of fights. Not so that Lucas loses but just so that we get more experinced and are ready. I mean someone like Maidana could be seen as the perfect tuneup/ set up match to Lucas. Nothing wrong with going those routes 1st to me. I dont consider that a duck

obviously if he fights matthysse in 2-3 fights it's not a duck. that is not going to happen. i don't know why you're acting like it will. just listen to the broner rhetoric concerning matthysse. they have no interest in that fight. haymon controls both fighters for the time being, but theres much more earning potential in broner than there is in matthysse. if it were a fight about which they were confident they'd take it and get what would be a massive win. they know that matthysse is the best jr WW in the world based on his peterson win, and prior to that what should be wins over judah and alexander. he destroyed alexander, who maidana could not touch.

you're being far too optimistic about broner's career. he's not as good as you think he is. he's not as good as i thought he was prior to the malignaggi fight.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

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see, the power thing works both ways to me. I think guys may be able to hurt him. Maybe not. However, I do think he has more power then he was able to show against Paulie and that everyone else he fights around those weights will feel it. He'll have a much easier time delivering hard blows to any of those guys than he did against Paulie.

Well Paulie is a better defensive fighter but he's also no where near the puncher any of those guys at 140 are, so it's just speculation on your part.

The main thing is him being flat footed. Can he move on his toes? I think he can but hasnt felt the need to show it. I could see him moving more against bigger punchers. On the other hand, if he doesnt then why is that so bad? I remember hearing people say all the time that Floyd is a pity pat runner. I also see everytime Toney fights, all the fans say they love his style and wish Floyd would do more of this.

Can he? We don't know because he's never shown that. Will it be a bad thing? Yes, against Rios, Mathysse and Maidana, he better not stand there. Also, Floyd wasn't a pitty pat puncher at 130, he was knocking people out but at the higher weight classes he couldn't really knock people out but let's not compare Floyd to Broner, Floyd is on another level.

This is what Broner pretty much does. He stays in the pocket like Toney and gives the excitment that people complain Floyd doesnt. It just didnt look that good against Paulie but against anyone else around those weights, it will look very exciting because they will be more offensive and give him chances to land & counter. Im looking forward to it either way

Broner is no Toney, stop it.

[low_Bo]

All these threads about "I told you so" and blah blah blah.

Again, I cant stress this enough. Just 2 fights ago the dude was at SFW. He was fighting at 130, had just 2 fights at LW, and now is at WW. That is a big jump. Doing all this while he's 23 but he sucks if he doesnt wreck a world champ like Paulie? I dont get it. That was a highly motivated Paulie too.

1st off, I was probably the 1st guy on this site hyping Paulie back in the day. Im a big fan. Ive met both these guys in person and both are really cool guys despite what others think. I remember when pretty much everyone use to hate Paulie and now they all love him. Its funny & convienent.

I go back to the weigh-in. As soon as I saw the vid of them together & face to face, I felt that Broner wouldnt blow him out. I dont care how big you guys think Broner is for the lower weights, its still totally different from fighting a small 130 pounder then it is a WW. Thats an adjustment that he has made in a short trip. Even if you think Paulie is feather fisted, thats not easy to do.

When Broner had the tough fight with Ponce, everyone was ripping him. I said that I thought he looked like the goods but like mostly everyone in boxing, he just struggled because PDL is a Southpaw. I said he would look way better against a righty and sure enough he did. I dont give guys a hard time for struggling with Southpaws. Thats the reason why I give Lucas a break for his fights with Devon & Zab.

As for this fight, I saw some good & bad with Broner. Again, he didnt move much but just like his fights at the lower weights, I didnt think he respected Paulie's Offense so he just tried to stay in the pocket and walk through him. If he foguht a puncher then I think he would move more. Not totally but he would move more.

From watchign the fight I felt Broner was on a totally different level than Paullie. You felt that any second he was about to step it up and start taking Paulie out but you kept waiting & waiting and he never could. Just minor flurries. The main thing to me though is that alot of that and alot of Broner's so called "non power" was due to Paulie.

1st off Paulie has a good chin but I was watching the fght with my girl and I was telling her that everytime Broner lets his hands go, Paulie would bend down real low and come forward which would smother Broner's punches so he couldnt get full power. He did it all fight. Go rewatch it. Therefore Broner couldnt ever open up like he wanted to and he had to throw more arm punches with less power to find the target. When Broner would look for that then Paulie would bend back.

No other guy at 140-147 fights like that. Broner wouldnt have any problem landing full power blows on every other guy because they mostly all are aggressive fighters who are open. None of them do that lil duck & in move. Its kinda like what Floyd was doing to the Ghost alot so he wouldnt get countered.

I hear alot of people saying it was a robbery. Come on now. Thats pure hate. Even if you think Paulie won, there is no way it could be a robbery. It was a close fight that could be somewhat hard to score.

As for the future, Broner said he would let the fans pick his opponent and ofcourse everyone comes up with Lucas who is like the new Margarito in terms of hype. Its like they all totally forgot about the Garcia fight and they hate Broner so much that they want to see him get KTFO. Broner sucks but if Lucas struggles with Devon & Zab, he gets a pass? I dont get how that works.

I see some dudes acting like girls like Lucas is coming to save them or saying "I present to you Lucas "The Machine" Mathysse" for Broner's next opponent. The dude is 23. Lets be real, he's not goign to fight him nor should he. As long as he fights a good guy then he's still right on sked. Still, how is this any different then people demanding that Lucas fight Floyd next? Who do you really think would win that? Stop doing stuff just to see guys lose and start being reasonable.

I would love to see him fight Maidana next. Thats the perfect next matchup. A couple of weeks ago everyone was acting like Marcos was a beast after the Lopez fight and everyone wanted to see him fight his Countrymen in Lucas but when Broner might fight him, they act like its a cherry pick or its a typical protected fight. The double standard is crazy.

I would even be fine with Broner fighting at 140. When was the last time you ever saw a guy fight in 4 different divisions in 6 fights besides Pac? Thats big time stuff. I saw one guy said hes garbage and he will definitely lose within the next 6 fights if he fights quality opponents. Im like, how does that make him garbage? Any guy could lose in the next 6 if they are fighting quality guys. They all have pretty much. All these guys around these divisions are good and there is no shame in losing to them.

If he loses, then what? It means he's a bum? You have to be undefeated now? Then you wonder why guys start to cherry pick but you rip them if they lose. You dont even wait for losses now. If its a close fight then he's a bum. I wouldnt put Broner in with Ghost or Ortiz or anyone like that. Stay away from the Southpaws who are big until he gets a lil more seasoned. Fight Maidana. Thats a great fight

You are probably the only one impressed, and also you are probably the only one who read that novel you wrote. Broner, for a guy being called the future of boxing, looked like shhhheayt!

For a guy who is supposed to be a powe puncher, he couldn't even stop an old version of pm, who was stopped by average powered hatton.

[Pr23]

I was also impressed by AB. Malignaggi is a world champion and a veteran of the game. Not just anyone can beat him, but a 23 year old lightweight in his first fight at 147 outclassed him.

It doesn't matter how many internet trolls hate on the kid, they're not gonna stop him. In fact they're only helping him get bigger.

Outclassed? Lol Hahahaha

[boliodogs]

Broner's statement that he will let the fans pick his next opponent is total BS. Golden Boy, and Broner's management team will pick his next fight and every fight after that. The fans will have nothing to do with who he fights next.How could the millions of boxing fans pick his next fight? Will there be some kind of vote? Of course not. I think most fans would like him to fight Matthysse the most but not if it means Matthysse-Garcia fight gets called off. Thurman is in line for a shot at Broner's title and I would like to see that fight. If Schaefer puts together a Broner-Maidana fight I would be happy with that fight and I think most other fans would like that fight. I was not impressed with Broner in the fight with Paulie. I think Broner is just one of many good young fighters that might be excellent if he improves but just ordinary if he does not improve. I don't think he is the future of boxing or the next Mayweather. I think there are several other fighters just as young and just as good as Broner that are much more likeable with much more class than Broner. Matthysse, Canelo, Mares, Mikey Garcia and GGG are all fighters I like and respect more than Broner. No one fighter is the future of boxing. I have to agree with Paulie that the way Broner acts does not make boxing look good and it has nothing to do with him being black. I would not like a person of any race that acts the way he does. Call me a hater if you want but I think so many fans dislike Broner because he is so dislikeable.