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  • DLT
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    Was I The Only One Impressed By Broner?

    All these threads about "I told you so" and blah blah blah.

    Again, I cant stress this enough. Just 2 fights ago the dude was at SFW. He was fighting at 130, had just 2 fights at LW, and now is at WW. That is a big jump. Doing all this while he's 23 but he sucks if he doesnt wreck a world champ like Paulie? I dont get it. That was a highly motivated Paulie too.

    1st off, I was probably the 1st guy on this site hyping Paulie back in the day. Im a big fan. Ive met both these guys in person and both are really cool guys despite what others think. I remember when pretty much everyone use to hate Paulie and now they all love him. Its funny & convienent.

    I go back to the weigh-in. As soon as I saw the vid of them together & face to face, I felt that Broner wouldnt blow him out. I dont care how big you guys think Broner is for the lower weights, its still totally different from fighting a small 130 pounder then it is a WW. Thats an adjustment that he has made in a short trip. Even if you think Paulie is feather fisted, thats not easy to do.

    When Broner had the tough fight with Ponce, everyone was ripping him. I said that I thought he looked like the goods but like mostly everyone in boxing, he just struggled because PDL is a Southpaw. I said he would look way better against a righty and sure enough he did. I dont give guys a hard time for struggling with Southpaws. Thats the reason why I give Lucas a break for his fights with Devon & Zab.

    As for this fight, I saw some good & bad with Broner. Again, he didnt move much but just like his fights at the lower weights, I didnt think he respected Paulie's Offense so he just tried to stay in the pocket and walk through him. If he foguht a puncher then I think he would move more. Not totally but he would move more.

    From watchign the fight I felt Broner was on a totally different level than Paullie. You felt that any second he was about to step it up and start taking Paulie out but you kept waiting & waiting and he never could. Just minor flurries. The main thing to me though is that alot of that and alot of Broner's so called "non power" was due to Paulie.

    1st off Paulie has a good chin but I was watching the fght with my girl and I was telling her that everytime Broner lets his hands go, Paulie would bend down real low and come forward which would smother Broner's punches so he couldnt get full power. He did it all fight. Go rewatch it. Therefore Broner couldnt ever open up like he wanted to and he had to throw more arm punches with less power to find the target. When Broner would look for that then Paulie would bend back.

    No other guy at 140-147 fights like that. Broner wouldnt have any problem landing full power blows on every other guy because they mostly all are aggressive fighters who are open. None of them do that lil duck & in move. Its kinda like what Floyd was doing to the Ghost alot so he wouldnt get countered.

    I hear alot of people saying it was a robbery. Come on now. Thats pure hate. Even if you think Paulie won, there is no way it could be a robbery. It was a close fight that could be somewhat hard to score.

    As for the future, Broner said he would let the fans pick his opponent and ofcourse everyone comes up with Lucas who is like the new Margarito in terms of hype. Its like they all totally forgot about the Garcia fight and they hate Broner so much that they want to see him get KTFO. Broner sucks but if Lucas struggles with Devon & Zab, he gets a pass? I dont get how that works.

    I see some dudes acting like girls like Lucas is coming to save them or saying "I present to you Lucas "The Machine" Mathysse" for Broner's next opponent. The dude is 23. Lets be real, he's not goign to fight him nor should he. As long as he fights a good guy then he's still right on sked. Still, how is this any different then people demanding that Lucas fight Floyd next? Who do you really think would win that? Stop doing stuff just to see guys lose and start being reasonable.

    I would love to see him fight Maidana next. Thats the perfect next matchup. A couple of weeks ago everyone was acting like Marcos was a beast after the Lopez fight and everyone wanted to see him fight his Countrymen in Lucas but when Broner might fight him, they act like its a cherry pick or its a typical protected fight. The double standard is crazy.

    I would even be fine with Broner fighting at 140. When was the last time you ever saw a guy fight in 4 different divisions in 6 fights besides Pac? Thats big time stuff. I saw one guy said hes garbage and he will definitely lose within the next 6 fights if he fights quality opponents. Im like, how does that make him garbage? Any guy could lose in the next 6 if they are fighting quality guys. They all have pretty much. All these guys around these divisions are good and there is no shame in losing to them.

    If he loses, then what? It means he's a bum? You have to be undefeated now? Then you wonder why guys start to cherry pick but you rip them if they lose. You dont even wait for losses now. If its a close fight then he's a bum. I wouldnt put Broner in with Ghost or Ortiz or anyone like that. Stay away from the Southpaws who are big until he gets a lil more seasoned. Fight Maidana. Thats a great fight
    Last edited by DLT; 06-24-2013, 11:31 AM.
  • dudeiknow
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    to answer your question, yes. everyone else was dissapointed or laughing. broner failed to live up to the hype, he's 1 fight away from losing. thats what happens when u talk so much **** and cant back it up, i cant believe this joke said he would beat floyd
    Last edited by dudeiknow; 06-24-2013, 11:47 AM.

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    • Ray Corso
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      I thought he did what he needed to do and won easily!
      I think he rehydrated to much and that hurt his work rate at times. He looked to smooth in his body and he did get bored chasing Paulie around! Other than that he got his 12 rounds in which is extremely important at his stage of development and won the fight easily!
      He has alot more work to do but all in all I think when he's 25 to 27 years old he should be one hell of a fighter! The talents there, he needs to be in a more serious position but I think that will come in time!
      I'm not in a hurry and I think his managment is timing things perfectly! Only the misguided haters want "more" but none of them ever managed a fighter!
      Hell they don't even use their real names when blabbin' Ray.

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      • BUNGALOWS
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        #4
        Yes you were OP.

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        • BUNGALOWS
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          #5
          Originally posted by Ray Corso
          I thought he did what he needed to do and won easily!
          I think he rehydrated to much and that hurt his work rate at times. He looked to smooth in his body and he did get bored chasing Paulie around! Other than that he got his 12 rounds in which is extremely important at his stage of development and won the fight easily!
          He has alot more work to do but all in all I think when he's 25 to 27 years old he should be one hell of a fighter! The talents there, he needs to be in a more serious position but I think that will come in time!
          I'm not in a hurry and I think his managment is timing things perfectly! Only the misguided haters want "more" but none of them ever managed a fighter!
          Hell they don't even use their real names when blabbin' Ray.
          Why you so mad all the time?

          Arrrrrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          • Weebler I
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            #6
            It was no robbery, but you haven't really said much about what impressed you about Broner during the fight.

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            • Gatling
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              He won but it wasn't impressive at all. No jabs? No body punches? Surely he could've countered some of Paulie's numerous jabs over top with a right. But nope. It just wasn't impressive.

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              • al-Xander
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                #8
                Maidana should be next. I'll be sold if he KO's the Argentinian.
                At this point, nahh.

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                • Mr. Philadel
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DLT
                  All these threads about "I told you so" and blah blah blah.

                  Again, I cant stress this enough. Just 2 fights ago the dude was at SFW. He was fighting at 130, had just 2 fights at LW, and now is at WW. That is a big jump. Doing all this while he's 23 but he sucks if he doesnt wreck a world champ like Paulie? I dont get it. That was a highly motivated Paulie too.

                  1st off, I was probably the 1st guy on this site hyping Paulie back in the day. Im a big fan. Ive met both these guys in person and both are really cool guys despite what others think. I remember when pretty much everyone use to hate Paulie and now they all love him. Its funny & convienent.

                  I go back to the weigh-in. As soon as I saw the vid of them together & face to face, I felt that Broner wouldnt blow him out. I dont care how big you guys think Broner is for the lower weights, its still totally different from fighting a small 130 pounder then it is a WW. Thats an adjustment that he has made in a short trip. Even if you think Paulie is feather fisted, thats not easy to do.

                  When Broner had the tough fight with Ponce, everyone was ripping him. I said that I thought he looked like the goods but like mostly everyone in boxing, he just struggled because PDL is a Southpaw. I said he would look way better against a righty and sure enough he did. I dont give guys a hard time for struggling with Southpaws. Thats the reason why I give Lucas a break for his fights with Devon & Zab.

                  As for this fight, I saw some good & bad with Broner. Again, he didnt move much but just like his fights at the lower weights, I didnt think he respected Paulie's Offense so he just tried to stay in the pocket and walk through him. If he foguht a puncher then I think he would move more. Not totally but he would move more.

                  From watchign the fight I felt Broner was on a totally different level than Paullie. You felt that any second he was about to step it up and start taking Paulie out but you kept waiting & waiting and he never could. Just minor flurries. The main thing to me though is that alot of that and alot of Broner's so called "non power" was due to Paulie.

                  1st off Paulie has a good chin but I was watching the fght with my girl and I was telling her that everytime Broner lets his hands go, Paulie would bend down real low and come forward which would smother Broner's punches so he couldnt get full power. He did it all fight. Go rewatch it. Therefore Broner couldnt ever open up like he wanted to and he had to throw more arm punches with less power to find the target. When Broner would look for that then Paulie would bend back.

                  No other guy at 140-147 fights like that. Broner wouldnt have any problem landing full power blows on every other guy because they mostly all are aggressive fighters who are open. None of them do that lil duck & in move. Its kinda like what Floyd was doing to the Ghost alot so he wouldnt get countered.

                  I hear alot of people saying it was a robbery. Come on now. Thats pure hate. Even if you think Paulie won, there is no way it could be a robbery. It was a close fight that could be somewhat hard to score.

                  As for the future, Broner said he would let the fans pick his opponent and ofcourse everyone comes up with Lucas who is like the new Margarito in terms of hype. Its like they all totally forgot about the Garcia fight and they hate Broner so much that they want to see him get KTFO. Broner sucks but if Lucas struggles with Devon & Zab, he gets a pass? I dont get how that works.

                  I see some dudes acting like girls like Lucas is coming to save them or saying "I present to you Lucas "The Machine" Mathysse" for Broner's next opponent. The dude is 23. Lets be real, he's not goign to fight him nor should he. As long as he fights a good guy then he's still right on sked. Still, how is this any different then people demanding that Lucas fight Floyd next? Who do you really think would win that? Stop doing stuff just to see guys lose and start being reasonable.

                  I would love to see him fight Maidana next. Thats the perfect next matchup. A couple of weeks ago everyone was acting like Marcos was a beast after the Lopez fight and everyone wanted to see him fight his Countrymen in Lucas but when Broner might fight him, they act like its a cherry pick or its a typical protected fight. The double standard is crazy.

                  I would even be fine with Broner fighting at 140. When was the last time you ever saw a guy fight in 4 different divisions in 6 fights besides Pac? Thats big time stuff. I saw one guy said hes garbage and he will definitely lose within the next 6 fights if he fights quality opponents. Im like, how does that make him garbage? Any guy could lose in the next 6 if they are fighting quality guys. They all have pretty much. All these guys around these divisions are good and there is no shame in losing to them.

                  If he loses, then what? It means he's a bum? You have to be undefeated now? Then you wonder why guys start to cherry pick but you rip them if they lose. You dont even wait for losses now. If its a close fight then he's a bum. I wouldnt put Broner in with Ghost or Ortiz or anyone like that. Stay away from the Southpaws who are big until he gets a lil more seasoned. Fight Maidana. Thats a great fight
                  great post!!!!

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                  • Jc8804
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                    #10
                    Im 11. And even i know paulie won that fight
                    Ask adrien how that jab tasted ?? Paulie did his thing

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