Was I The Only One Impressed By Broner?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #71
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    Can't dispute that. Just saying, there's a ceiling to how far you can go just on the jerk ticket. Floyd had a lot more going on for him.
    this is where you are a little off. Broner is far more than a jerk. In fact, if he didn't talk so much **** most posters would be better able to evaluate his skills instead of coomplaining about how he chooses to market himself.

    IMO, he got a good win, but he didn't impress me like I was expecting him too.

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    • sicko
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      #72
      He did some things WELL like cut the ring off and also Paulie landing % was all in the 20's which means Broner was Blocking and Parrying A LOT of those punches, I thought he uses the shoulder roll well and was catching a lot of Paulie's punches and the stats showed that. Also his stamina was excellent, never really slowed down at all, he stayed step for step with Paulie for all 12 Rounds.

      So no Broner wasn't as bad as some people are making it out to be not even close but also people did expect him to DOMINATE and while he did win...he did not "DOMINATE" like he said he would or like the odd makers expected him to. When he acts like he does nobody will give him the benefit of the doubt and people exceptions for him will be extremely high and borderline unrealistic

      That being said...it was only one fight, a fight that can help a 23 year old fighter get BETTER. Lucky for him it is not many fighters at 140 or 147 that fights like Paulie, most of them are flat footed and much easier to hit so he will look far more impressive against those others fighters then he did against Paulie because of the difference is STYLES

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      • Jloro
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        #73
        Originally posted by Jc8804
        Im 11. And even i know paulie won that fight
        Ask adrien how that jab tasted ?? Paulie did his thing
        Are you really 11 lol?
        Maybe that is why you think Paulie won

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        • DIB42
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          #74
          Originally posted by New England
          good to see you in NSB, homie. you're always good with great advice in the training section.
          Thanks, I don't make it on to NSB that often . . . Not without a few beers at least (except this time)

          Topic had me interested though...

          I think Broner has a ton of potential, but I was not impressed with the win. He could have made a statement coming out, outwork, outbox, and stop paulie.

          But he just took shots and shook his head most of the fight, which is enough to win I guess...

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          • MindBat
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            #75
            I agree with the post, DLT. Malignaggi showed he wasn't just going to lay down and take a beating. He showed he could stay up and take it. Everyone knew Paulie couldn't hit hard, and many didn't expect it to last that long either.

            It was pretty exciting to watch.

            Now Bro will have to get in with the harder punchers to prove just how well he can handle them.

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            • DIB42
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              #76
              Originally posted by McAlister
              Broner did what he wanted to do in the fight.... if you watched showtime broadcast you prolly thought paulie was close in the fight, but watching the boxnation broadcast... whole diff story


              all in all easy easy win for broner i gave paulie 2 rds
              Which two rounds?

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              • wazaa.
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                #77
                Impressed? Not even close.

                I had Broner winning 8-4 but man, did he look average. He was just too passive. Yes, he kept coming forward and did cut the ring off well but he hardly threw any combinations. It looked like he was pleased with the fight going the distance. No passion whatsoever.

                I want Broner-Maidana next. I see Broner winning but I wanna see how he handles a strong 147 lber.

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                • mozzer101
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by DLT
                  All these threads about "I told you so" and blah blah blah.

                  Again, I cant stress this enough. Just 2 fights ago the dude was at SFW. He was fighting at 130, had just 2 fights at LW, and now is at WW. That is a big jump. Doing all this while he's 23 but he sucks if he doesnt wreck a world champ like Paulie? I dont get it. That was a highly motivated Paulie too.

                  1st off, I was probably the 1st guy on this site hyping Paulie back in the day. Im a big fan. Ive met both these guys in person and both are really cool guys despite what others think. I remember when pretty much everyone use to hate Paulie and now they all love him. Its funny & convienent.

                  I go back to the weigh-in. As soon as I saw the vid of them together & face to face, I felt that Broner wouldnt blow him out. I dont care how big you guys think Broner is for the lower weights, its still totally different from fighting a small 130 pounder then it is a WW. Thats an adjustment that he has made in a short trip. Even if you think Paulie is feather fisted, thats not easy to do.

                  When Broner had the tough fight with Ponce, everyone was ripping him. I said that I thought he looked like the goods but like mostly everyone in boxing, he just struggled because PDL is a Southpaw. I said he would look way better against a righty and sure enough he did. I dont give guys a hard time for struggling with Southpaws. Thats the reason why I give Lucas a break for his fights with Devon & Zab.

                  As for this fight, I saw some good & bad with Broner. Again, he didnt move much but just like his fights at the lower weights, I didnt think he respected Paulie's Offense so he just tried to stay in the pocket and walk through him. If he foguht a puncher then I think he would move more. Not totally but he would move more.

                  From watchign the fight I felt Broner was on a totally different level than Paullie. You felt that any second he was about to step it up and start taking Paulie out but you kept waiting & waiting and he never could. Just minor flurries. The main thing to me though is that alot of that and alot of Broner's so called "non power" was due to Paulie.

                  1st off Paulie has a good chin but I was watching the fght with my girl and I was telling her that everytime Broner lets his hands go, Paulie would bend down real low and come forward which would smother Broner's punches so he couldnt get full power. He did it all fight. Go rewatch it. Therefore Broner couldnt ever open up like he wanted to and he had to throw more arm punches with less power to find the target. When Broner would look for that then Paulie would bend back.

                  No other guy at 140-147 fights like that. Broner wouldnt have any problem landing full power blows on every other guy because they mostly all are aggressive fighters who are open. None of them do that lil duck & in move. Its kinda like what Floyd was doing to the Ghost alot so he wouldnt get countered.

                  I hear alot of people saying it was a robbery. Come on now. Thats pure hate. Even if you think Paulie won, there is no way it could be a robbery. It was a close fight that could be somewhat hard to score.

                  As for the future, Broner said he would let the fans pick his opponent and ofcourse everyone comes up with Lucas who is like the new Margarito in terms of hype. Its like they all totally forgot about the Garcia fight and they hate Broner so much that they want to see him get KTFO. Broner sucks but if Lucas struggles with Devon & Zab, he gets a pass? I dont get how that works.

                  I see some dudes acting like girls like Lucas is coming to save them or saying "I present to you Lucas "The Machine" Mathysse" for Broner's next opponent. The dude is 23. Lets be real, he's not goign to fight him nor should he. As long as he fights a good guy then he's still right on sked. Still, how is this any different then people demanding that Lucas fight Floyd next? Who do you really think would win that? Stop doing stuff just to see guys lose and start being reasonable.

                  I would love to see him fight Maidana next. Thats the perfect next matchup. A couple of weeks ago everyone was acting like Marcos was a beast after the Lopez fight and everyone wanted to see him fight his Countrymen in Lucas but when Broner might fight him, they act like its a cherry pick or its a typical protected fight. The double standard is crazy.

                  I would even be fine with Broner fighting at 140. When was the last time you ever saw a guy fight in 4 different divisions in 6 fights besides Pac? Thats big time stuff. I saw one guy said hes garbage and he will definitely lose within the next 6 fights if he fights quality opponents. Im like, how does that make him garbage? Any guy could lose in the next 6 if they are fighting quality guys. They all have pretty much. All these guys around these divisions are good and there is no shame in losing to them.

                  If he loses, then what? It means he's a bum? You have to be undefeated now? Then you wonder why guys start to cherry pick but you rip them if they lose. You dont even wait for losses now. If its a close fight then he's a bum. I wouldnt put Broner in with Ghost or Ortiz or anyone like that. Stay away from the Southpaws who are big until he gets a lil more seasoned. Fight Maidana. Thats a great fight
                  Yes you are the only one impressed.

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                  • DLT
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                    #79
                    I forgot to add that the Paulie frustrated him so much by ducking and coming forward that Broner switched to Southpaw atleast 3 times during the fight. IDK if many caught that. He did that because he couldnt get to Paulie like he wanted to. He was trying to land and couldnt get clean hard shots because of the way Paulie was bending so he would switch to Southpaw. There is no one else around those weights that would make him do that. No one else fights like that. So yes, others will present more problems for Broner than Paulie but they will also present far more oppurtuniteis for him to get his shots off.

                    We all here Paulie on Showtime. He knows his stuff. He just doesnt have the talent but his smarts are on point. Add to that with him being the most motivated he's been since the Cotto fight and you have that kinda performance from Broner. I just want to see what Broner's O looks like against anyone else around those weights. He'll let his hands go alot more and will deliver his power way better. Still might not be enough to win because all of these guys are good but you will see that some of the things people are saying are totally false

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                    • Kagami Taiga
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      I forgot to add that the Paulie frustrated him so much by ducking and coming forward that Broner switched to Southpaw atleast 3 times during the fight. IDK if many caught that. He did that because he couldnt get to Paulie like he wanted to. He was trying to land and couldnt get clean hard shots because of the way Paulie was bending so he would switch to Southpaw. There is no one else around those weights that would make him do that. No one else fights like that. So yes, others will present more problems for Broner than Paulie but they will also present far more oppurtuniteis for him to get his shots off.

                      We all here Paulie on Showtime. He knows his stuff. He just doesnt have the talent but his smarts are on point. Add to that with him being the most motivated he's been since the Cotto fight and you have that kinda performance from Broner. I just want to see what Broner's O looks like against anyone else around those weights. He'll let his hands go alot more and will deliver his power way better. Still might not be enough to win because all of these guys are good but you will see that some of the things people are saying are totally false
                      typical nsb. either one fight makes u trash on it makes u able to knock out floyd mayweather.

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