Manny is the reason for boxing's resurgence

[The Big Dunn]

As i posted in the mayweather resurgence thread..

Oscar is the main reason..

Floyd was just a boxing star doing between 300,000-400,000 ppv buys vs zab, baldomir and gatti
Oscar fight propelled him into a mainstream superstar

Oscar did the same with manny..
manny would probably be fighting at the lower weights if it wasnt for oscar fighting him.. Manny became a mainstream superstar because of that fight...

Oscar should deserve alot of the credit for passing the torch

Odh gave floyd a fight. Hbo gave him the 24/7 platform. Floyd sold the hell out of that fight. Odh didn't make floyd a star 24/7 did. Odh gets credit for being the ppv king between tyson and floyd. But floyd did more with cotto than odh did with manny or tito.

Floyd canelo could do 1.8 mil. If so that means floyd and tyson are only ones with 2 over that number (maybe holyfield too).

[Rapid Counter]

So this is what the worlds smallest circle jerk looks like.

[baya]

wrong. when it comes to state-side boxing affairs there was always talk that the sweet science was dying, but those have always proven to be unfounded. look, going back two decades we had our superstars just starting from the early 90's with tyson, chavez and whitaker to the late 90's with odlh, tito, jones jr, floyd and toney onto the 2000's with floyd, hatton, cotto. oh, and i'm very aware of all the other uber-studs that i left off ... like the godfathers JMM, MAB and EM.

rumors of its demise were greatly exaggerated.

now, to correct your title, it should read something closer to the lines of "manny is the reason for the resurgence of boxing in asia'

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Odh gave floyd a fight. Hbo gave him the 24/7 platform. Floyd sold the hell out of that fight. Odh didn't make floyd a star 24/7 did. Odh gets credit for being the ppv king between tyson and floyd. But floyd did more with cotto than odh did with manny or tito.

Floyd canelo could do 1.8 mil. If so that means floyd and tyson are only ones with 2 over that number (maybe holyfield too).

Then how come floyd hasnt sniffed those ppv numbers since Oscar..

I do agree that Floyd sold that fight playing the undefeated villian but oscar was such a big mainstream star he didnt really need to do too much... Everybody already knew who oscar was,,,, It was Floyd's coming out party with the general public....
Yes 24/7 was great for the support...

But if i had to choose who has done the most to revitalize the sport i would still say Oscar

What if oscar retired and never fought floyd or manny?????
Floyd would still be selling ppv's in the 350,000 range like he did before, grant it that him and cotto would have done big numbers comperable to serg-chavez jr but fights like ortiz and guerrero would do less than 500,000 buys

24/7 is a great marketing tool but doesnt turn anyone into a 1 mil ppv buy star, if that was the case than Calzage and roy jones would have done a much bigger number and ward and dawson didnt even make them ppv stars... And 24/7 is still on HBO so alot of the general public doesnt get to see it.....

[DAN916]

Hes more accepted by the mainstream public but Floyd draws more boxing fans when it comes to fight night.

[Augustane]

Then who was Floyd and Oscar?

[al-Xander]

TS is right. Pacquiao was huge and he still is.



You're an idiot if you deny it.

[lparm]

Hes more accepted by the mainstream public but Floyd draws more boxing fans when it comes to fight night.

Very accurate post dans.

So when people say "Floyd is the bigger star" they are 100% wrong as far as the all important mainstream goes, but the numbers say they are absolutely correct when it comes to drawing the fans of the sport.

That's why the fight would've been huge because you have a global superstar in Manny bringing all the international press to fight the biggest U.S. boxing star in Floyd. The international ppv receipts alone would've been well over a million and we know Floyd draws fans here. But I digress, the bigger global star is still Manny and once we take off our ethnocentric blinders we discover the world doesn't end at our borders.

[MurkaMan]

Not only is Pacquiao a well know sports star in the U.S. but internationally he is a megastar bigger than Floyd, bigger than Lebron, bigger than Tiger. Hell in Asia Manny is THE superstar. He has Nike and vodka commercials, has been on daytime and nighttime talk shows. The bottom line is he is very known virtually everywhere. Boxing hasn't seen a crossover star like him since Tyson.

But...

Even with all that recognition and superstardom beyond what any current athlete here will ever experience, the sport he participates in still has a relatively small fanbase. I fear boxing is becoming a niche sport and will always be behind soccer, football, basketball and baseball in terms of global appeal.

I need physical proof that Manny is a bigger star. Such as ppv numbers. People keep saying he's this big star, but the proof is not their. With that being said, Floyd is only inches bigger than Manny.

[7_rocket]

Manny is popular but more popular internationally than Lebron? come on son