What's in a pound or two......

[Grimgash]

Could be .... I hope that he will have more motivation due to the fact that he is fighting Floyd. It appears that he is more motivated.

Another note is that he had the longest layoff in a while prior to Trout. It may have affected him as well.

Possibly, I don't think the weight will be an issue as I think Canelo knows this fight can make his career and then some. He'll be the best fighter he has ever been / can be by time the fight comes. It falls into inexperience and I'm not sure if he can learn enough or has seen enough in the ring to prepare him for one of the best defensive fighters ever. Hopefully he doesn't lose focus / get discouraged and puts on a good performance....but all in all I think it will happen in the mid rounds and it'll be all she wrote.

[mannyman]

It all depends on the fighter. I'm sure some could shed the extra 2 lbs but others can't. I think if a fighter really wants a fight (ie Canelo wants mayweather) then they will make weight concessions - we'll find out if that effects him come fight night.

Leonard Ellerbe said this regarding the Pac, Cotto fight (Cotto was a WW fought a 145 CW for those who don't know) before Mayweather, Cotto, make of it what you will:

"He was a dead man walking when he went into the ring, the casual fan doesn't know what difference one or two pounds can make when a fighter is already down to weight. Fighters know."

[JDezi4]

Why would he ask for it if it didn't matter?

C'mon, lets not forget the ridicule Manny got... This is the same shit

The only redeeming factor is that Alvarez is still young and maybe it won't destroy him

[Tuggers1986]

2lbs is nothing when you first start training camp.

But, anybody who has tried to cut weight before, and theyve reached their lowest most successful weight ever... knows, that asking for ANOTHER 2lbs does in fact matter, and it's not "nothing".

I agree with this

4 months out, losing that extra 2lbs shouldn't be a problem.

If we were closer to the fight and he had already started his weight cut and had to lose another 2 then it is incredibly hard

Luckily, that isn't the case and he should make the weight fine so people need to stop bitching and looking for excuses before the fight has even happened

[Tuggers1986]

I was offered a fight against the guy who stopped me in the amateurs acouple years earlier and excepted with the condition that we fight at 145 rather than 140lbs as they suggested. The fight was again at the Palace, I fought there the month before at 154lbs (my 'normal' fighting weight being 147lbs,) so we bartered back and forth by phone and I ended up excepting the bout at 142lbs because I really wanted the bout. I could make 145 with just a simple overnight dry out, no problem. It was such a ***** losing those couple of extra pounds lbs that I ended up weakening my immune system and ended up fighting the guy that night with a severe lung infection dragging me down. Imagine being in a ring and trying to get enough oxygen to your system with ill lungs, worst night of my life. Worst 2-3 days of my life. Just acouple pounds could be the difference between walking to the ring ready to roll or just being a hollowed out deadman walking............... Rockin'

But if you agreed on 142lbs 4 months before your fight it wouldn't have been a problem would it?

[Rockin']

But if you agreed on 142lbs 4 months before your fight it wouldn't have been a problem would it?

the fight wasn't 4 months away. when we got the call it was about 3 weeks away. It was on the Fight Night card in April, I had just fought on the Fight Night card in March, the month before. James Toney actually headlined that card in April.

Just remembered this, Johnny pulled me out of bed to train a few days before the fight, I was seriously ill yet I sparred. Waking up on the heavybag, remembering that I was sparring yet not remembering anything about the session. I didn't even recall switching gloves.

So I essentially fought that fight with a concussion aswell. Be carefull with the weight loss. I made the weight but I was a just hollowed out dead man, with a recent concussion, walking toward the ring to do battle................ Rockin'

[KidDinamita]

Alvarez is already "draining" himself to go down to 154Lbs. It's real that it's just 2lb (1kg), but if you have never fought to make weight for a fight you cannot tell.

I can make 65kgs, but it is hell to make and maintain 64.5kgs let alone 64kgs, why? because it is already a bit difficult to make 65kgs.

[extracurRICular]

wow we got so many fighters in this site..........................

[tangalog2200]

It depends on the situation.

Some fighters bodies might be tuned to where the division max limit is as far as they can go. Some other guys might be able to get to the division max limit and still be able to shed another 2-3 pounds after getting there.

The fact that we have a fight signed is proof enough for me that 2 pounds isn't THAT big of a deal, and if it was, then it's on the fighter who agreed to the clause.

If you can't make the weight and be strong in the ring the next fight, then don't take the fight, simple as that. Goes for non-catchweight fights as well.

I think catchweights is one of the biggest blown out of proportion non-issues in boxing that ends up being an excuse for a fighter AFTER the fight, a knock on a fighter requesting a catchweight, and something for the fanboys to cry out.

agree 100% on this..........

people making a big issue on cw - more than the fighters who have agreed to fight - is already choking this site with repetitious issues or non- issues related to cw,....

david fought goliath and nobody complained....or is there?

[BennyST]

Well, it's entirely dependent on the circumstances and situation for that fighter. If they are already struggling to make 154, two pounds is hell.

But, if they are 22 years old, dont struggle with the weight, have only just started weighing in at 154, after weighing in well under or at 147, and have previously weighed in anywhere between 149 and 154 for his last ten or so fights, 2 pounds for the biggest fight of his entire career is nothing. I wouldn't have been surprised if he came in around that naturally.

People forget this:

Of Canelo's last 12 fights since moving from 147 to 154, he's only weighed in at 154 twice. Twice. Out of 12 fights at 154, he's only weighed in at 154 twice. 10 fights he's weighed in at 153 or under. He has weighed in most often at 150 out of those 12 fights, and it probably averages out at about 152 across all of them.

This isn't an old Margarito at the end of his career who had been nearly killing himself to make 147, or even Cotto who was 30 and did struggle with the weight too.

It's a 22 year old, who has only weighed in at 154 twice, moved up from 147 twelve fights ago, and has since weighed in most commonly around 150-152 or 153. As champion he has had catchweight fights at 150 and 152 already. Weighed in at 150 for Hatton and 152 for Rhodes...maybe it was the other way around......and last weighed in under the limit at 153.

If anything, he's more comfortable and fights much better weighing in between 150-153, at least at the moment.

Either way, the deal being made about the weight is utterly absurd. The amount of **** people are spewing, whilst having previously justified Pac's (yes, you people) is ridiculous. It sucks that it just cant be at 154, but it makes no difference, won't have any effect on the fight, or fighters most importantly, and is only ever going to be used by morons that can't get over themselves and their bias.