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  • Rockin'
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    #41
    I was offered a fight against the guy who stopped me in the amateurs acouple years earlier and excepted with the condition that we fight at 145 rather than 140lbs as they suggested. The fight was again at the Palace, I fought there the month before at 154lbs (my 'normal' fighting weight being 147lbs,) so we bartered back and forth by phone and I ended up excepting the bout at 142lbs because I really wanted the bout. I could make 145 with just a simple overnight dry out, no problem. It was such a ***** losing those couple of extra pounds lbs that I ended up weakening my immune system and ended up fighting the guy that night with a severe lung infection dragging me down. Imagine being in a ring and trying to get enough oxygen to your system with ill lungs, worst night of my life. Worst 2-3 days of my life. Just acouple pounds could be the difference between walking to the ring ready to roll or just being a hollowed out deadman walking............... Rockin'
    Last edited by Rockin'; 06-03-2013, 09:25 PM.

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    • mathed
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      #42
      Originally posted by RVABoxer
      Well you can if your'e fully hydrated but those last two pounds when your'e already drained are def gonna take a toll I lost 13 lbs in 3 days to make weight for a fight and didn't feel bad at the weigh in or even until the fight and once i started getting hit I def noticed a difference cause I got hurt a lot easier
      Exactly!!!!

      I know it depends on the circumstances but some people don't ever take into account how hard a person has worked to get down to the point where they are still 2 pounds over the weight class limit or whatever the case is. It's like, sometimes you hear this "All they got to do is hit a treadmill up for 20 minutes and you are good" kind of stuff and it isn't always that simple.

      Well, sure it's that simple is a guy is fully hydrated and ready to go but not so much if he has worked his ass off for the last week and a half slowly draining down make the weight before that.

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      • dan_cov
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        #43
        He is only 'struggling' to make weight due to a poor diet. He has a S&C now so if anything being done correctly the 1-2lbs if anything should be an advantage and help improve his ****ty stamina. It will probably do him some good to be lighter on his feet. He doesn't have the frame to carry around what he does.

        He is a 22yr old kid who has been cutting corners. Anybody can see that they just look so deep for any excuse to discredit Floyd.

        Those extra 2lbs could do him some good if done correctly.

        A guy like Ariza or Quiggs trainer could really do this kid a world of good.

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        • big_james10
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          #44
          I find it odd how the haters on this message board have a problem with the two pound catchweight,, but Alvarez and his team don't. It is apparent that the clowns/haters who post crap daily about Mayweather will say or do anything to justify their ******ity and hatred. They lie regularly, accept negative rumors as the gospel truth while claiming information from legitimate sources, including Mayweather himself is a lie when it doesn't suit their agenda of hate.

          Alvarez had no trouble making 147 for the first 30 fights of his career and, at age 22, he won't have any problem making 152. His move up in weight had more to do with the competition at 147 than it did with his ability to make weight. If Alvarez was still fighting at 147, he would be the Mexican equivalent of Mike Jones -- he would remain undefeated until they put him in the ring with someone who actually punched back.

          It doesn't matter if they fought at 152, 154, 160 or 170, Alvarez will get his ass whipped by Mayweather and the clowns on this message board will have nothing to hang their hats on other than the lie that you create in your minds about Mayweather draining Alvarez.
          Last edited by big_james10; 06-03-2013, 11:11 PM.

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          • Grimgash
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            #45
            Originally posted by bravestone
            Canelo weighed in under 154 for Trout so surely it can't be this difficult.

            Cutting weight at 22 > Cutting weight in your thirties.

            What my main problem is Mayweather having Cotto and DLH fights at the full limit. Where is the glory in limiting your opponent? It's basically saying I need this advantage to win.
            I dunno why he asked for it, but Canelo did weigh 153 against Trout not even trying / needing to cut lower. So in essence he has to lose one pound this time, I don't think it should be an issue for him at all, unless he was weight drained vs Trout...

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            • ADP02
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              #46
              Originally posted by bravestone
              Canelo weighed in under 154 for Trout so surely it can't be this difficult.

              Cutting weight at 22 > Cutting weight in your thirties.

              What my main problem is Mayweather having Cotto and DLH fights at the full limit. Where is the glory in limiting your opponent? It's basically saying I need this advantage to win.
              Canelo has stamina issues even though he has a low work-rate. So it's quite possible that it affected him in the Trout fight.

              Go check out the latest interviews. He is already talking about having to "work harder" to make weight. Also saying that he will be "more careful" the closer the fight approaches.

              You don't want Canelo to be talking like that from the get go. Canelo should be thinking about training, game plans, strategies,.....

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              • Grimgash
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                #47
                Originally posted by ADP02
                Canelo has stamina issues even though he has a low work-rate. So it's quite possible that it affected him in the Trout fight.

                Go check out the latest interviews. He is already talking about having to "work harder" to make weight. Also saying that he will be "more careful" the closer the fight approaches.

                You don't want Canelo to be talking like that from the get go. Canelo should be thinking about training, game plans, strategies,.....
                I think that applies to his semi lack of discipline when it comes to training. He works hard but he isn't a Mayweather or Hopkins... he still is a 22 year old kid and I don't think has the discipline that they have, to stay 100% commited to training. He's no broner but .... he young doe.

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                • ADP02
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Grimgash
                  I dunno why he asked for it, but Canelo did weigh 153 against Trout not even trying / needing to cut lower. So in essence he has to lose one pound this time, I don't think it should be an issue for him at all, unless he was weight drained vs Trout...
                  I just said it in my previous post. He already showed the signs in the Trout fight. Stamina issues with low work rate. Now add the fact that Canelo balloons to 172 ... I wasn't too be surprised that he looked a bit lethargic in the fight.

                  Now if that 172 fighter has to get down another 2lbs to get to 152, .... not good.

                  The good thing is that Canelo has time and appears willing to come in shape. Sometimes, motivation is the key. Maybe with a good training camp it will not affect him ....

                  So it may be a factor, hopefully not.

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                  • Grimgash
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    I just said it in my previous post. He already showed the signs in the Trout fight. Stamina issues with low work rate. Now add the fact that Canelo balloons to 172 ... I wasn't too be surprised that he looked a bit lethargic in the fight.

                    Now if that 172 fighter has to get down another 2lbs to get to 152, .... not good.

                    The good thing is that Canelo has time and appears willing to come in shape. Sometimes, motivation is the key. Maybe with a good training camp it will not affect him ....

                    So it may be a factor, hopefully not.
                    I don't think it will, but it's hard to say if he was in Trout. He has always had stamina problems. He's never been known for being a marathon runner. Like I said he's young and doesn't quite have that Mayweather-Hopkins type discipline to stay focused 24/7 365. Those dudes live and breathe boxing. Canelo isn't there yet... hopefully he gets there though, because boxing needs a fresh new big name.

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                    • ADP02
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Grimgash
                      I think that applies to his semi lack of discipline when it comes to training. He works hard but he isn't a Mayweather or Hopkins... he still is a 22 year old kid and I don't think has the discipline that they have, to stay 100% commited to training. He's no broner but .... he young doe.
                      Could be .... I hope that he will have more motivation due to the fact that he is fighting Floyd. It appears that he is more motivated.

                      Another note is that he had the longest layoff in a while prior to Trout. It may have affected him as well.

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