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Look how far Martinez dropped for struggling with Murray. Yet Manny is KTFO and stays top 10. Sheesh.
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I've been bashing Cliff Rold's P4P lists for over 5 years now. Though I don't see how Carl Froch is a top 5 P4P fighter, there is a vast improvement in Rold's P4P list compared to recent years. I can't really say anything bad about this list. I think Wlad should be over Pacquiao. Rold's weak point has always been Pacquiao, you always put him where he doesn't belong or in front of fighters who are doing better than him. I know you will put him even higher after he pummels Rios, who also is coming off a loss.
I can live with Donaire at #8 for getting outboxed by Rigondeaux. But Pacquiao got knocked out cold, dude, you got it all wrong, Donaire should be #8, not taken off entirely. Pacquiao should not be there. He has lost officially and unofficially, 2 of his last 3 fights. That is no Top 10 P4P fighter.
Other than that, this is a really good, fresh list, Cliff. It has some new names there, rather than keeping names just because they are popular.
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Originally posted by sigrab jr View PostI've been bashing Cliff Rold's P4P lists for over 5 years now. Though I don't see how Carl Froch is a top 5 P4P fighter, there is a vast improvement in Rold's P4P list compared to recent years. I can't really say anything bad about this list. I think Wlad should be over Pacquiao. Rold's weak point has always been Pacquiao, you always put him where he doesn't belong or in front of fighters who are doing better than him. I know you will put him even higher after he pummels Rios, who also is coming off a loss.
I can live with Donaire at #8 for getting outboxed by Rigondeaux. But Pacquiao got knocked out cold, dude, you got it all wrong, Donaire should be #8, not taken off entirely. Pacquiao should not be there. He has lost officially and unofficially, 2 of his last 3 fights. That is no Top 10 P4P fighter.
Other than that, this is a really good, fresh list, Cliff. It has some new names there, rather than keeping names just because they are popular.
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Manny stays in my top ten because i thought he dominated bradley and was dominating jmm..
Serg is not because he got beat down by Murray and should have lost, and serg looks super old and broken down
Doniare not on my list becasue he got completely dismantled in a big fight...
Manny never got dominated like those 2 did, he just walked into a huge counter right in a fight he was winning...
Just my opinion on why he on and those two off
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Originally posted by sigrab jr View PostI've been bashing Cliff Rold's P4P lists for over 5 years now. Though I don't see how Carl Froch is a top 5 P4P fighter, there is a vast improvement in Rold's P4P list compared to recent years. I can't really say anything bad about this list. I think Wlad should be over Pacquiao. Rold's weak point has always been Pacquiao, you always put him where he doesn't belong or in front of fighters who are doing better than him. I know you will put him even higher after he pummels Rios, who also is coming off a loss.
I can live with Donaire at #8 for getting outboxed by Rigondeaux. But Pacquiao got knocked out cold, dude, you got it all wrong, Donaire should be #8, not taken off entirely. Pacquiao should not be there. He has lost officially and unofficially, 2 of his last 3 fights. That is no Top 10 P4P fighter.
Other than that, this is a really good, fresh list, Cliff. It has some new names there, rather than keeping names just because they are popular.
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostManny stays in my top ten because i thought he dominated bradley and was dominating jmm..
Serg is not because he got beat down by Murray and should have lost, and serg looks super old and broken down
Doniare not on my list becasue he got completely dismantled in a big fight...
Manny never got dominated like those 2 did, he just walked into a huge counter right in a fight he was winning...
Just my opinion on why he on and those two off
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Mayweather
Marquez
Ward
Martinez
Rigondeaux
Wladmir
Mares
Froch
Bradley
Donaire
How it should be.
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