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  • #41
    Originally posted by Frokid View Post
    I dont know exactly what your business is but its obvious that you are against Pac fighting Rios. The same Pac that got KTFO in his last fight and the same Pac that so many people here in BS claimed to be washed up. Pac is no longer #1 or #2 p4p fighter. Putting all that into consideration, kind sir, do realise that Rios is as good a fighter that you should expect in there with Pac. How do you know that this fight isnt viable? Has Pac fought since he got put to sleep? How do you know that he will beat Rios as easily as you proclaim without having him seen post-knockout? How do you criticise a fighter for taking a fight against a fighter that could hit and crack that chin again? You preach this fight is gonna be one-sided and I get the feeling you're not so open with your thoughts about it. Yet you offer no substitutes to his opponent come November. You claim Alvarado is fighting on the same card? Are you in speaking terms with Arum cause last time i checked Alvarado is out for the rest of the year. You think Pac should fight Bradley or Marquez, well last time I checked they were too busy for Pac. Maybe you ask that Pac fight the Golden Boy's (were not ****** enought to envisage this). Basically, I need you to STFU IF YOURE NOT OFFERING ANY LOGICAL DEFENCE TO YOUR ARGUMENT. THINK OF A FIGHTER FOR PAC TO FIGHT AND SAY NOTHING MORE DIC KHEAD
    you're name calling, it makes your arguement (what little of one there is) irrelevant.

    is Rios more of a threat to Pacquiao than Alvarado? answer that question

    if he is, then you can't say Rios is a "soft tune-up fight" for Pacquiao after being KTFO

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    • #42
      this might work in alvarado's favor, if manny destroys rios like i get the feeling he will (rios' flatfooted come forward style is perfect for manny its gonna be brutal) then the rubber match between rios and alvarado will be easier work for alvarado.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by MikeRo1972 View Post
        As far as talent; Rios and Alvarado are pretty much the same fighter. Plain and simple Rios is the bigger name, period. It's not like mile high KO'd Rios in 1 round and is now being overlooked. If Rios-Alvardo fight again its still 50/50. I do think Alvarado deserves the opportunity to make serious money but I'm ok with Rios-Manny. Besides, Alvarado is adamant about making his first defense in Denver.
        It's Rios over Alvarado because Alvarado might use his legs a bit, which he's done several times in both Rios fights. They don't want that, they want someone who will walk right to Pacman and make him look phenomenal, not someone who will potentially use his damn head and box.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by intoccabile View Post
          It's Rios over Alvarado because Alvarado might use his legs a bit, which he's done several times in both Rios fights. They don't want that, they want someone who will walk right to Pacman and make him look phenomenal, not someone who will potentially use his damn head and box.
          yup. how can people call manny a P4P fighter, when he has to be matched up against certain styles in order to win or look effective?

          it's bull**** and a double standard

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          • #45
            Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
            yup. how can people call manny a P4P fighter, when he has to be matched up against certain styles in order to win or look effective?

            it's bull**** and a double standard
            was bradley and marquez the type of styles that would make pac look effective and win?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
              you're name calling, it makes your arguement (what little of one there is) irrelevant.

              is Rios more of a threat to Pacquiao than Alvarado? answer that question

              if he is, then you can't say Rios is a "soft tune-up fight" for Pacquiao after being KTFO
              Oh my fuc king god. Mate youre too thick-headed to realise my argument. Read carefully: Pac can be forgiven if he takes Ponce de Leon, he can be forgiven if he takes on Juan Diaz, he can be forgiven if he takes on Singwangcha. Yet you criticize him for fighting Brandon Rios, a dude that can crack his chin? Asking me if hes more of a threat than Mile High is irrelevant because as I said HES OUT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. A source arguing this would also be appreciated. Besides what does it matter if Mike is more of a threat than Rios when I already said that he can be forgiven if he takes on even lesser opposition? You should be glad that he is fighting people on the level of Rios. ALso I dont understand your last sentence explain again pls.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
                yup. how can people call manny a P4P fighter, when he has to be matched up against certain styles in order to win or look effective?

                it's bull**** and a double standard
                This is true if Manny was still considered in the top of the heap. He's obvs not in the same league as he once was

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                • #48
                  My understanding is Alvarado was the first choice as seen in past articles. Then later, some news confirmed it's Alvarado. Something must have happened along the way, like drawing power consideration, etc.

                  It's certainly not because one is easier than the other. We all know that these two guys (Rios, Alvarado) always had a 50/50 fight, and the trilogy will most likely be the same. You gotta be an idiot to claim one is easier than the other.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
                    dude... stop contradicting yourself!

                    you say Pac needs to get his feet wet, is RIOS vs Pacquiao an easy fight for Pacquiao? easier than Alvarado?

                    stay on point and answer this question, so I can school you
                    how can i contradict myself if i havent say anything of that nature ... one thing you can't "school" me lol second thing is i dont read everybody paragraphs ... i'm staying on the point of your dumb thread ... other people could argue what they want .. i'm saying is pac needs to get his feet wet .. these fighters are not machines he's not a 25 no more ... you make it sound like he's fighting mathew hatton or kendall holt !!! jesus man rios is no joke tough dude not elite tho but shouldn't last more than 6 rounds against pac in a fun lil fight ... alvarado another good fighter also not elite but also shouldn't last against pac... alvarado probably asked for to much who knows we not behind the scenes.. stop trying to bring another man down its not a good look

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
                      a less dangerous opponent?

                      so is Rios less dangerous than Alvarado? DeezNutz said it's the other way around. I got Pacquiao Nation arguing both sides of the fence lol
                      Either Alvarado or Rios will do. They vary in style but they are almost equal in terms of overall capabilities as a fighter.


                      This is a comeback fight for Pac so either of the 2 is a superb opponent. a less dangerous fighter than these 2 is even acceptable because Pac literally went to sleep in his last fight.

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