So what exactly won Canelo the fight???

[4Corners]

CupoCity, we can agree to disagree. But your opinion isn't holier than thou.

[DoubleMM]

My goodness, you just are on a roll tonight. From calling Canelo boring while touting Rigondoux as exciting to this. The quality of your expertise is just deteriorating from one post to the other. Next thing, you'll be calling him Arturo Gatti.

Shane Mosley was slick vs Pacquiao, right?

[cupocity303]

Lol, that's exactly what guys say when they can't give a logical argument. Stepping into jabs isn't ring generalship. You need to articulate a real argument and not expect people to swallow this "because I said so" nonsense.

I've already articulated it, ad nauseum in the other threads, in case you haven't been participating. I guess I'm just getting lazy. Maybe I should copy-past previous posts, as reference.

Ring Generalship = Controlling the pace while on defense, and being effective while on offense, even if not the more active of the two. That's just the synopsis.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Controlling the pace is either taking the fight to the other guy, which when Canelo tried he got turned by Trout several times, and very rarely trapped Trout on the ropes. And when Canelo went backward, he literally did nothing.

Apparently bob and weaving to make Trout miss some of his punches, landing 2-3 significant punches, being out thrown by 20-30 punches a round, fighting hard for 30-45 seconds, laying on the ropes and letting the opponent tee off on you (and even if he did make Trout miss, he didn't really return from the ropes aside from one uppercut late in one of the rounds)....means you controlled the pace.

Since when did you become a fan of out throwing without landing? You're the same type of cat who will dismiss fighters like Pacquiao, Margarito and Rios for doing the same thing.

[Grimgash]

Canelo won plain and simple, I had him up a point. This wouldn't look so bad if it wasn't for the one judges score card which was horribly bias imo. Canelo was more effective, and Trout did do a lot of pawing and missing. He did land some good shots though and controlled quite a few rounds. There was no robbery, it was a loss plain and simple. Neither fighter did look incredibly impressive, but the fight itself was good, I enjoyed the hell out of it. I will say though the open score card thing is bull****.

[cupocity303]

Shane Mosley was slick vs Pacquiao, right?

Your setups/traps are poor. You need to work on that.

[4Corners]

Since when did you become a fan of out throwing without landing? You're the same type of cat who will dismiss Margarito and Rios for doing the same thing.

Well....Rios didn't out land Alvarado, and Alvarado didn't take off 2/3 of the round. And Rios didn't out land Abril.

When your opponent is taking off as much time as Canelo was, yes you can out throw someone and win. And I LOVE how people are acting like Trout landed no punches. He only landed 30 more punches and threw 300 more.

[-Kev-]

I'm sorry but I got to say it... if Canelo was another 'type' of boxer.. a lot of you posters will be priasing him to the roof for his slickness.

Canelo out slicked Trout... it is what it is. He had Trout hitting air and there was this one gif worthy sequence where Canelo slipped and dodge half a dozen punches ending with a back turned Matrix Move. almost smirking at Trout.

His defense was extremely impressive and I have no god damn idea why so many of you 'slick boxer' supporters are not appreciating what Canelo did. The Bottom line is he out slicked a boxer that was suppose to be 'slick'...

He won the fight with the KD.. it is what it is.

I was not surprised by his defense. I was more surprised before the fight at how underrated his defense was.

Because he's patient enough to do it, and Trout was on his bike vs Cotto, who's smaller and less powerful than Canelo. Canelo's boxing skills and defense are underrated. Trout's only chance on paper is to outbox Canelo, but you'll see even that will be hard, because Canelo is not some come forward brawler who will get ******. The guy is very smart and patient and really picks his punches. Canelo has a puncher's chance to win and also can outwork and beat Trout in a boxing match, so he can win two ways. Call me crazy [about Canelo's boxing skills] but you'll see when Trout is befuddled and can't keep Canelo off of him when he finds out his boxing skills are not good enough for Canelo.

[cupocity303]

Since when did you become a fan of out throwing without landing? You're the same type of cat who will dismiss fighters like Pacquiao, Margarito and Rios for doing the same thing.

ColdCash might be on to something. Of course I don't know half of these cats in here, as I don't actively participate in the wasteland known as Non Stop Boxing. I'm more of a Lounge guy.

But if you make it blatantly known of what type of Boxing fan you are and what you prefer (Floyd/Ward/Rigo/Dawson over Pacquiao/Margarito/Rios) then it can and will be held against you. It's not an ad-hominem.

[4Corners]

I was not surprised by his defense. I was more surprised before the fight at how underrated his defense was.

The only thing that was true about your prediction was that Canelo's defense by bob and weaving in there was underrated. I'll give you that.

He didn't out work Trout, and wasn't able to overwhelm Trout at all. The fight was fought at Trout's pace the whole time. When Canelo came forward, Trout turned him and got back to his jab. When Canelo moved backward, he did next to nothing and/or laid on the ropes and let Trout tee off, while not returning fire hardly ever.