So what exactly won Canelo the fight???

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  • The Evil 1-2
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    #101
    Originally posted by -Kev-
    Nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, that Trout does is comparable to what Hopkins does. The ring generalship you speak of, was non-existent.

    Just, no. It doesn't matter what comparison you are making between Hopkins and Trout. There is none whatsoever. Unless you're talking about they are both African American, i'll give you that.

    Otherwise, it just looks like you were bringing him up because he's in Cup's avatar, and no other reason. Might as well bring up Rick Grimes in the argument when replying to me. Because that is how it look like what you are doing with Cup.

    In the subject of ring gen. [and everything else], there's absolutely no kind of resemblance between Trout and Hopkins.
    Again, you're making a Straw Man argument. I never said that Trout was on the level of B-Hop. Stick to the topic at hand...

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    • cixthree
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      #102
      Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo
      Clean punching: “Clean” punches are punches that land on the face/side of the head and the front/side of the torso.


      Where does it say anything about quantity? It doesn't. You can land your 10 speed shots, and I can land my one hard shot and knock you down or even out.

      So which is more effective?
      Clean punches are the ones listed on compubox, did u see the numbers?
      And if quantity does not matter, than why the hell should we be counting? And a person who says "Its not about how many more times I hit you than you hit me" I question if that person has ever been in the ring, and in a quality gym with quality people.
      And boxing is soo subjective you can hit me with that hard shot, and i can totally smack you around for 2 mins and 50 seconds and 2 judges could score it 9/9 still.
      And what the hell is ur point, I dont get the whole argument. Canelo won, I just dont agree it was that wide or impressive.

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      • nysoxfan84
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        #103
        The judges and fighting in SA won Canelo the fight.

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        • The Evil 1-2
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          #104
          Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo
          How exactly did Trout control the pace and style of the fight? By throwing worthless jabs? You got cats in here saying Canelo took time off and only fought 30 seconds of each round. That right there is saying Canelo controlled the pace and style of fight seeing as how when Canelo wanted to, he upped the action of the fight and landed the more meaningful blows.
          After the first 1/3rd of the fight, which was then followed by the first public announcement of the official scores, Trout, knowing that a robbery was going to happen, began applying more pressure and turning up the work rate. This put Canelo in positions that he didn't initiate. Before this change in Trout's gameplan, he was successfully turning Canelo and making him miss, while, at the same time, throwing more and landing more.

          It seems that the general argument that the supporters of this robbery are making is that Canelo landed the harder blows. Well, this shouldn't be a surprise becase we all KNEW that Canelo was the harder puncher. Even if he landed less, the punches he did land were more powerful because that's indicative of his style...

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #105
            Canelo landed the punches that were clear and easy to score~ much of Trouts best work is to the body which is much harder to see.

            Please don't bring up compubox, judges don't go off that so it is meaningless in scoring use your eyes and think about what the judges are watching~

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            • -Kev-
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              #106
              Originally posted by The Evil 1-2
              Again, you're making a Straw Man argument. I never said that Trout was on the level of B-Hop. Stick to the topic at hand...
              I'm assuming you're a fan of B-Hop and yet, you couldn't see that Trout was the one exhibiting Ring Generalship.
              I'll put it like this, for the third time. Don't ever mention Hopkins name, or anything Hopkins does in the ring in a post in defense of Trout.

              Especially not some crap like this:

              I'm assuming you're a fan of B-Hop and yet, you couldn't see that Trout was the one exhibiting Ring Generalship.
              I'm not sure what you are "mysteriously" insinuating with this post when you mention Hopkins. Like "Man, Hopkins exhibit's ring generalship all the time and you can not see Trout doing it tooooo?".

              Is it that?

              If it is, refer to my previous replies to you.

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              • wazaa.
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                #107
                Canelo won the fight.

                He landed the more significant punches, slipped away most of Trout's pityful punches.

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                • Vasyl’s dad
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by cixthree
                  Clean punches are the ones listed on compubox, did u see the numbers?
                  And if quantity does not matter, than why the hell should we be counting? And a person who says "Its not about how many more times I hit you than you hit me" I question if that person has ever been in the ring, and in a quality gym with quality people.
                  And boxing is soo subjective you can hit me with that hard shot, and i can totally smack you around for 2 mins and 50 seconds and 2 judges could score it 9/9 still.
                  And what the hell is ur point, I dont get the whole argument. Canelo won, I just dont agree it was that wide or impressive.

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                  • Vasyl’s dad
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by The Evil 1-2
                    After the first 1/3rd of the fight, which was then followed by the first public announcement of the official scores, Trout, knowing that a robbery was going to happen, began applying more pressure and turning up the work rate. This put Canelo in positions that he didn't initiate. Before this change in Trout's gameplan, he was successfully turning Canelo and making him miss, while, at the same time, throwing more and landing more.

                    It seems that the general argument that the supporters of this robbery are making is that Canelo landed the harder blows. Well, this shouldn't be a surprise becase we all KNEW that Canelo was the harder puncher. Even if he landed less, the punches he did land were more powerful because that's indicative of his style...

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                    • Chief2ndzOnly!
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by 4Corners
                      What did he do in the fight that made him win in your opinion???

                      Did he land more punches?
                      Did he control the pace of the fight?
                      Did he out work Trout?
                      Did he hurt Trout and land so many more harder punches that it negates Trout throwing more the whole fight?

                      What won him the rounds???
                      I just watched the fight on my DVR, and I had it a close fight for Canelo 114-113. I was at the fight live, and it looked like Canelo won by a larger margin(116-111, maybe even 115-110), but After re-watching it I'm cool with 116-111 or 115-112 Canelo. Either way you look at it Canelo won tonight, and the right man had his hand raised IMO. Great night for Boxing.

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