I'll say it... Guillermo Rigondeaux is probaby the most skilled boxer of all time.

[stefl14]

Fair enough, thats all I am saying. Not that he is unbeatable, but that there is nobody in the history of the sport that will match him in a chess match.

Well pound for pound there is still an active fighter that would.

[raskat]

We already knew he was probably the best Amateur boxer of all time.

With last nights performance I am going to put it out there that Rigondeaux is probably the most skilled boxer to ever step into the ring.

We just saw a 32 year old fighter on the downside of his prime dismantle a top 5 p4p fighter in his prime.

I am not saying he is unbeatable, he still has to prove that against a fighter who can take his punches and is willing to eat them to deliver their own like a Roberto Duran, but skill wise I think it can now be argued that he is without equal.

The closest I can think of is maybe Pernell Whitaker, but Rigo is equally slick, is better at controlling the pace of fights, and is more precise with his punches.

Dude, seriously? You are here on this forum for 6 years and you come up with a post like that? When Rigondeaux got wobbled quite a few times by no name fighters in the past you didn't call him a bum, did you? But now he has a big win and suddenly he is the GOAT? SRR became the GOAT by beating world class fighters over and over and over again.

[!! Shawn]

Forgetting Floyd over Corrales in which Floyd was a bigger underdog, and put a whitewash on corrales far far worse than Rigo to Donaire. Also Mosley over Margarito.

I don't recall Floyd being a big underdog, and Corrales was never regaurded as highly as Donaire, simply because he was not on the level of Donaire.

[fishscale]

The big mistake you are making is not realizing that its the same sport. Making a fighter miss is the same thing regardless of if it is Amateurs or pros. Counter punching is the same skill, feints are the same thing, footwork is the same thing, punches are the same thing.

People delude themselves into thinking there is a huge difference. Yes, some fighters don't transition well because they were ****ty Amateurs that got by on terrible scoring such as James DeGale.

But true quality is the same in both. Pernell Whitaker was at the top in both sports.

Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, Evander Holyfield, Sugar Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Wladmir Klitschko, Lennox Lewis, Andre Ward

All gold medalists (two of them were robbed, RJJ and Evander was DQed for KOing his opponent).

The skills are the same.

Same sport, different quality. That's still what you're failing to grasp.

[!! Shawn]

****d. those guys are not gun shy.



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When did Donaire become Gunshy? We are talking about the guy who was famously willing to take Montiels right hand to counter over the top with his Left hook.

[!! Shawn]

Yeah thats how it played out and Rigo's superior counter punching, positioning, and timing enabled him to dominate but what if someone of world class boxing craft doesn't enable him to do what he does best, can he effectively pressure? maybe? IDK I have to see more to say so he is far far from the most skilled fighter ever at this point.

We have seen him against such opponents many times in the Olympics. We know how those turned out.

[damit305]

Yup, he walks around 124 or little higher. Romero, Frampton and Quigg would be good fights.

I would not like him at 126. Guys like Mikey are super big at 126. Regardless of what Donaire said Rigo's power gained his respect early on, will his punches have the same effect on a guy like Mikey? Probably not. And Salido has been trying to get out of 126 for a while now. So who else is there at 126? A rematch with Donaire? I'd take the 3 fighters I listed over a rematch with Donaire.

Rigo can become undisputed at 122 and retire. Its very doable. Romero has the IBF and then Terrazas/Mijares is doable fight too. Sadly those fights are downgrades from Donaire but Donaire IS a P4P fighter.


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[stefl14]

When did Donaire become Gunshy? We are talking about the guy who was famously willing to take Montiels right hand to counter over the top with his Left hook.

Don't kid yourself. Rigondeaux fights like this over everyone with a pulse.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't recall Floyd being a big underdog, and Corrales was never regaurded as highly as Donaire, simply because he was not on the level of Donaire.

Mayweather was as wide an underdog as Rigondeaux was.

And both Donaire and Corrales were Top 5 P4P calibur fighters at those respective times.

[!! Shawn]

I get what you're saying. I agree, that question does need to be answered. Me personally, I think he can. His defensive style is conducive to that approach. He stands his ground, and makes you miss. I can see him applying pressure, then making you miss, and counter you off that. I think he's shown to be a master at that.

We also saw the kind of Damage that Nonito took in a slow Chess match. Rigo is superbly conditioned, and would be able to dish out that level of damage in a fast paced fight as well.