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I'll say it... Guillermo Rigondeaux is probaby the most skilled boxer of all time.

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  • Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
    That makes him the most skilled fighter of all time? The aforementioned facts would suggest otherwise. Nonito is just one fighter. I'm not denying he's skilled but stop overrating him. He's not even the best technical fighter in the game - Mayweather is (well, you could argue he isn't anymore at his age but even so he was better a few years ago at the very least imo and is probably still better).
    I'd argue that Rigo is, and Floyd has never beaten a fighter of Donaire's caliber, EVER.

    EVER.......

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    • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
      Just because you are unwilling to watch, does not mean he has not already demonstrated this ability.





      The man cannot be trapped, his feet are too good.
      2 minute rounds, 4 rounds, stop embarrassing yourself.

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      • Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
        Tell me about it. It's not the most significant win in the last year. I'd give it second.
        Now we know you're a Flowmo ALT.

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        • Originally posted by Tim2daresq View Post
          And that's exactly what Rigo likes.
          And how many fighters like Manny, Marco and Morales has Rigo faced?

          Not a single one.

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          • Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
            What the **** are you on about? Mayweather - a fighter still in the game - is more skilled. Despite fighting better competition overall and having a higher output, his punch stat numbers are better than Rigo's in both offence and defence - that is a fact. The only area in which Rigo is better is power. Rigo is supposedly one of the most skilled boxers of all time but struggled with Cordoba for **** sake. It is way to early to assess his skill set in the context of all time greats. So he beat Donaire so what? Donaire is a counter puncher who is arguably tailor made for someone like Rigondeaux. He hasn't fought anyone who has forced him to use an inside game and being as he's fought as long as he has in the amateurs and is a Southpaw I very much doubt he has one. rig has one style and he's the greatest of all time? Get the **** out of here. There is no such thing as sustained pressure in the amateurs for 12 rounds and we are yet to see Rigondeaux deal with it.

            And your statements about the quality of his win are truly ridiculous. To compare Donaire with Hearns or Leonard is actually an insult to boxing. "The most significant win of the last 20 years" hahahahahah. It's not the most significant win of the last year mate.

            Rigo won very comfortably against Cordoba. Watch the fight. Feel free to name me a better win.

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            • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
              Feel free to name a better win.
              They can't. Rigo shows his skill against a bigger, top 5 P4P fighter in his prime. He didn't just outclass some made to order opponent like certain fighters do.

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              • Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
                And how many fighters like Manny, Marco and Morales has Rigo faced?

                Not a single one.
                You're right, he beat an even better version of those guys in Donaire.

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                • Originally posted by IronDanHamza
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                  Originally Posted by Matty Ice

                  Its pretty unfair to be asking Rigo to fight a FW. The guy is a SMALL SBW. Think of Rigo like you think of Floyd when it comes to 147. I said Darchinyan cause who else is there to pressure Rigo? There's plenty of opponents for him but who can pressure him like you want? He can fight Romero (who didn't show up to their amateur figh), Frampton, Quigg, maybe Mathebula and Terrazas/Mijares. But none of these guys will pressure him at an "elite level".


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                  I think he could do 126. But with that said, you're right he isn't big at all for 122. He walks around at 124 ish correct? He's a solid 122 Lber but I think Rigondeaux could make noise at 126 don't you?

                  I don't see what's left for him at 122. He can clean it out. But he just beat Nonito Donaire. What else is left to do? No one's going to beat him at 122.

                  He's going to be the smaller man but I'd like to see him at 126. Maybe have a tune up and see how he handles the weight.
                  Yup, he walks around 124 or little higher. Romero, Frampton and Quigg would be good fights.

                  I would not like him at 126. Guys like Mikey are super big at 126. Regardless of what Donaire said Rigo's power gained his respect early on, will his punches have the same effect on a guy like Mikey? Probably not. And Salido has been trying to get out of 126 for a while now. So who else is there at 126? A rematch with Donaire? I'd take the 3 fighters I listed over a rematch with Donaire.

                  Rigo can become undisputed at 122 and retire. Its very doable. Romero has the IBF and then Terrazas/Mijares is doable fight too. Sadly those fights are downgrades from Donaire but Donaire IS a P4P fighter.


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                  • Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
                    And how many fighters like Manny, Marco and Morales has Rigo faced?

                    Not a single one.
                    Read my reply to crold1

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                    • Originally posted by Tim2daresq View Post
                      I'd argue that Rigo is, and Floyd has never beaten a fighter of Donaire's caliber, EVER.

                      EVER.......
                      Marquez is of a higher calibre than Donaire arguably and definitely in all time terms. You will mention weight now but weight wasn't the problem - Mayweather weighs 149 on fight nights and Marquez stopped Pacquiao at welter. Still, I'm not gonna argue that this win is better than Rigo's because it isn't but still.

                      De La Hoya is a better fighter (though not at the time they fought I will concede).

                      Even if Floyd hasn't beaten a fighter of that Calibre, he also hasn't been taken to a split decision by someone on the level of Cordoba. He's proven himself against many more styles and in many more fights that Rigo. As I keep saying, Rigo takes more and lands less in percentage terms than Mayweather despite throwing less. How in the world can he be more skilled than Mayweather if this is the case. The only area in which he is better than Mayweather prime for prime is in power.

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