I'll say it... Guillermo Rigondeaux is probaby the most skilled boxer of all time.

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  • !! Shawn
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    #111
    Originally posted by stefl14
    Mayweather? Please don't tell me that Rig is more skilled than Mayweather as that is ridiculous. Ricardo Cordoba lmao. For **** sake the amateurs might make you skilled in the pot shotting technical sense but doesn't mean you can deal with 12 rounds of pressure. We are yet to see this from Rig.
    Did you just pump up Mayweather then bash Rigo for pot shotting in the same post?

    How Ironic.

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      #112
      Originally posted by !! Shawn
      Feel free to name a better win.
      In the past 20 years? There are plenty
      Calzaghe over Lacy
      Pacquiao over Barrera
      Morales over Pacquiao
      Marquez over Pacquiao
      Winky over Tito
      Tito over Vargas
      Hopkins over Tito
      Mosley over DLH
      Margarito over Cotto
      Foreman over Moorer
      thats just off the top of the head.

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        #113
        Originally posted by Tim2daresq
        You're right, he beat an even better version of those guys in Donaire.
        This is embarrassing. Donaire is better than Morales, Pacquiao and Barrera?. You are a ****ing joke. What's worse is their styles aren't comparable.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Still Blazin
          Let the good times troll?
          Yeah man! 34k posts in 3 years, thats some hard trolling!

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            #115
            Originally posted by !! Shawn
            Did you just pump up Mayweather then bash Rigo for pot shotting in the same post?

            How Ironic.
            I didn't bash him - I said he's good at it. Even at pot shotting he's not as good as Mayweather though haha.

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              #116
              I give Rigo a lot of props for the win, he did amazing. He looked great in there, but this post just makes me dislike him....you guys can't be serious... He's good but one good pro win doesn't make him the most skilled of all time.

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                #117
                Originally posted by fishscale
                The big mistake you're making here is comparing the Amateurs to the Pros. Duane Bobick beat Larry Holmes in the amateurs lol and that was when the Amateurs were a lot more professional style orientated.
                The big mistake you are making is not realizing that its the same sport. Making a fighter miss is the same thing regardless of if it is Amateurs or pros. Counter punching is the same skill, feints are the same thing, footwork is the same thing, punches are the same thing.

                People delude themselves into thinking there is a huge difference. Yes, some fighters don't transition well because they were ****ty Amateurs that got by on terrible scoring such as James DeGale.

                But true quality is the same in both. Pernell Whitaker was at the top in both sports.

                Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, Evander Holyfield, Sugar Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Wladmir Klitschko, Lennox Lewis, Andre Ward

                All gold medalists (two of them were robbed, RJJ and Evander was DQed for KOing his opponent).

                The skills are the same.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo
                  In the past 20 years? There are plenty
                  Calzaghe over Lacy
                  Pacquiao over Barrera
                  Morales over Pacquiao
                  Marquez over Pacquiao
                  Winky over Tito
                  Tito over Vargas
                  Hopkins over Tito
                  Mosley over DLH
                  Margarito over Cotto
                  Foreman over Moorer
                  thats just off the top of the head.
                  Forgetting Floyd over Corrales in which Floyd was a bigger underdog, and put a whitewash on corrales far far worse than Rigo to Donaire. Also Mosley over Margarito.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Well, Rigondeaux had a lot of question marks, of course. So far he's answering them well. You can't answer one question and consider them all answered.

                    He's answered if he's an elite pro, he's proven that. He has proven he is an elite, P4P calibur fighter as a pro. No one can outbox Donaire like that, no one. So he's proven that.

                    He's also proven he can take a punch.

                    He's proven he's an elite chess player. I don't believe anyone is beating him in a chess match.

                    He hasn't proven how he handles elite pressure yet. I've said this a few times but I have no seen an inside game from Rigondeaux yet. Not saying he doesn't have it, but, I wan't to see if he has it. Because he hasn't been in the ring with it yet and shown it.

                    I don't want to see him fight Darhcinyan at this point. I think a fight between him and the Salido before the Juan Ma fights would have been awesome.
                    Fair enough, thats all I am saying. Not that he is unbeatable, but that there is nobody in the history of the sport that will match him in a chess match.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn
                      The big mistake you are making is not realizing that its the same sport. Making a fighter miss is the same thing regardless of if it is Amateurs or pros. Counter punching is the same skill, feints are the same thing, footwork is the same thing, punches are the same thing.

                      People delude themselves into thinking there is a huge difference. Yes, some fighters don't transition well because they were ****ty Amateurs that got by on terrible scoring such as James DeGale.

                      But true quality is the same in both. Pernell Whitaker was at the top in both sports.

                      Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, Evander Holyfield, Sugar Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Wladmir Klitschko, Lennox Lewis, Andre Ward

                      All gold medalists (two of them were robbed, RJJ and Evander was DQed for KOing his opponent).

                      The skills are the same.
                      You clearly don't know boxing. What about people who put on absolute clinics against everyone in the amateurs like Mark Breland but weren't as successful in the pros. Did Mark Breland get by on bad scoring?

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