Sugar Ray Robinson vs the Modern Era. Not as easy as we think.

[T18Z]

No one said he wouldn't lose a round, but he would beat every single one of those fighters.

No one mentioned having to go through them one after the other. With injuries, and an accumulation of punishment, I'm sure he'd eventually lose to the last guy he'd have to face, depending on which fighter that was, but in a pure H2H, he wouldn't lose to a damn one of them.

I don't think he'd get through the list without a loss, but whatever.

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Please if you think Mosley was bad you better check up on some footage on another level of fighter in SRR


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Please, Robinson was fighting for Tacos in Tijuana. He's overrated

Jake Lamotta was badder then Margarito. You better watch their last fight. nobody could convince Margarito stays standing from those shots



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[billeau2]

Floyd >>>> Sweet Pea. He doesnt everything better than Sweet Pea. If you give him a good chance youd have to give Floyd an even better chance

Floyd is not the defensive fighter Sweet Pea was, not by a long shot. Yes Mayweather is excellent defensively but Whitaker had unnatural ability. The problem Floyd would have is SRR's work rate and power. Floyd fights smart...SRR fought smart, had the athletic ability of Jones and was a murderous puncher.

[T18Z]

I am not saying Robinson was not great. He surely was great. I just don't think he should be declared an automatic, sure thing winner over all the other great welterweights that he never fought.

Pretty much this ^^^^

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Robinson was schooling Light Heavyweight champ Joey Maxim in the 90 degree sun til the sun became to much.


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[billeau2]

Do you think Pea is actually a tougher fight against Robinson than say a much bigger Welter like Oscar or Tito? I know skills and speed sometimes negate size, but Pea was 5'6 1/2 vs Robinson's 5'11 1/2+much bigger frame overall.
In this case is Robinson just much too big+skilled for Pea to be effective at all?

I do because the Pea was not a physical fighter...he made ya miss, like he did with Chavez for example....the relative size would not be such an issue because neither guy would be inclined to take advantage of it.

[billeau2]

Jake Lamotta was badder then Margarito. You better watch their last fight. nobody could convince Margarito stays standing from those shots



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Guys like Lamotta looked unskilled but came up slow and hard. Lamotta could do lots of things in the ring...Margarito got lucky because Cotto decided that he was too macho to clinch Margarito and the hand wraps. Once Margarito was figured out, exposed, he became cannon fodder....

So I AGREE with this statement ahhemmm!!!

[BigAlexSand]

If he has all these weaknesses then it's not a sure thing that no welterweight in history could beat him. As far as him being impossible to knock out, that is not true. He was hurt and knocked down many times. In the fight he lost to Jake LaMotta on February 5th 1943 LaMotta knocked Robinson out cold with a left hook at the end of the 8th round. In those days you could be saved by the bell. Robinson was saved from a certain KO when the bell ended the 8th round when the count had reached 8 with Robinson still flat on his back and not moving. LaMotta was not a real big puncher and welterweights like Hearns and Trinidad probably hit harder than LaMotta. Robinson was knocked down 9 times by 7 different fighters. Welterweight Tommy Bell knocked him down and light hitters Greaves and Archer knocked him down three times late in his career. I am not saying Robinson was not great. He surely was great. I just don't think he should be declared an automatic, sure thing winner over all the other great welterweights that he never fought.

But at welterweight SRR did not lose one fight out of over 100 fights by KO/TKO, not till going to light heavyweight did he suffer a tko

[Tim2daresq]

Floyd is not the defensive fighter Sweet Pea was, not by a long shot. Yes Mayweather is excellent defensively but Whitaker had unnatural ability. The problem Floyd would have is SRR's work rate and power. Floyd fights smart...SRR fought smart, had the athletic ability of Jones and was a murderous puncher.

Great post......

[Pacquiao'd]

I hope you're trolling. Floyd = Pea, Pea > Floyd, Floyd > Pea would be acceptable, but Floyd >>>>>>> Pea is downright blasphemous.

Floyd > Pea, better?