Sugar Ray Robinson vs the Modern Era. Not as easy as we think.

[Tim2daresq]

Turpin was part of a tour. That ray faught every two weeks vs top 15 opponents
Ray wasnt recovering like a superhuman after 6 fights in 12 weeks and looked sluggish vs turpin,id love to see the list do that

Very well said.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Do you think Pea is actually a tougher fight against Robinson than say a much bigger Welter like Oscar or Tito? I know skills and speed sometimes negate size, but Pea was 5'6 1/2 vs Robinson's 5'11 1/2+much bigger frame overall.
In this case is Robinson just much too big+skilled for Pea to be effective at all?

theatre size disparity would make pea that much harder to hit IMO. he was able to easily duck and get down low vs guys his own height, against a fighter 4 inches taller, he'd have a fun doing it.


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[Jc8804]

Were talking 15 rounders right.

Ray faught 15 rounders only and did same day weigh ins

Imagine friday weigh ins for ray
Ouch, thats a big welter

Ali and sugar ray leonard loved him,ray leonard admitted he couldnt go 15 with walker smith

[Tim2daresq]

Were talking 15 rounders right.

Ray faught 15 rounders only and did same day weigh ins

Imagine friday weigh ins for ray
Ouch, thats a big welter

Ali and sugar ray leonard loved him,ray leonard admitted he couldnt go 15 with walker smith

STOP IT!!! You've already ethered the SRR doubters. Now you're just cheesin.

[-Kev-]

Were talking 15 rounders right.

Ray faught 15 rounders only and did same day weigh ins

Imagine friday weigh ins for ray
Ouch, thats a big welter

Ali and sugar ray leonard loved him,ray leonard admitted he couldnt go 15 with walker smith

Facts:

Robinson fought a total of 16 15-round fights, out of 198 total fights.

Fought 10 rounds with LaMotta in his loss to him, fought to a 10 round Draw against Henry Brimm, 10 round Draw to Jose Basora.

ALL of his fights against LaMotta were 10 rounders, excluding one, which was a whopping 12 rounds. The Armstrong fight was 10 rounds.

Robinson didn't fight in his first 15 round fight until his 75th pro fight [rightfully so, since only title fights were 15 rounds and that was his first title fight].

Robinson a "big welter": Robinson was 157lbs in his fight against Joey Maxim for the World Light Heavyweight title.

Robinson did not fight 15 rounds for his non-title fights [Again, rightfully so], leading to the majority of his career being 10 round fights. Now a days even in non-title fights, we see 12 rounders.

He's The GOAT, but stop overrating him. How can you overrate some one who is already the most highly rated? Stop that.

[Tim2daresq]

Facts:

Robinson fought a total of 16 15-round fights, out of 198 total fights.

Fought 10 rounds with LaMotta in his loss to him, fought to a 10 round Draw against Henry Brimm, 10 round Draw to Jose Basora.

ALL of his fights against LaMotta were 10 rounders, excluding one, which was a whopping 12 rounds. The Armstrong fight was 10 rounds.

Robinson didn't fight in his first 15 round fight until his 75th pro fight [rightfully so, since only title fights were 15 rounds and that was his first title fight].

Robinson a "big welter": Robinson was 157lbs in his fight against Joey Maxim for the World Light Heavyweight title.

Robinson did not fight 15 rounds for his non-title fights [Again, rightfully so], leading to the majority of his career being 10 round fights. Now a days even in non-title fights, we see 12 rounders.

He's The GOAT, but stop overrating him. How can you overrate some one who is already the most highly rated? Stop that.

All bow down to the GOAT......

[billeau2]

Peas defense was strictly avoiding punching while Floyd does that plus much more. H2H Floyd Beats Pea. He hits harder, mounts an attack from his defense as well as being offensive. LIke I said, FLoyd > Pea. And if Pea has a chance against SRR, Floyd has a better chance.

FLoyd cuts EVERYONEs work rate so you need to come with something better than that

prffft! First get your argument straight....You say that because Floyd does so much more than just avoid punches his defense is better than Peas? No make sense dude! And defense is avoiding punches last I checked.

Floyd has never been able to throw combos to the degree that many great fighters have been able to do....no knock on him I happen to think Floyd is great, but as a counter puncher he is only perhaps marginally better than Whitaker.

Anyhow you still have not even made a statement as to how Floyd is better than Whitaker defensively (see above) so I don't know how to respond other than to say that sometimes a fighter with one talent beats a better well rounded fighter.

edit. I don't want to minimize Floyd's counterpunching ability. He is a phenominal counter puncher.

[$Bullsfam$]

Nobody can go undefeated I'm just saying on his best day he's the favorite. He's the greatest of all time for a reason


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[Capncrunch]

Robinson or armstrong is the greatest, just look at their history. undeniable . mayweather

[Jc8804]

Ray was a middle weight when he faught maxim,
And past his prime by far

A shell of himself how many rounds can mayweather or that list
Go with bernard. Hopkins or dawson for that matter ona hot summer day in NY

And leonard admitted on the arsenial hall show. That walker smith was too big and fast and could out match him on every category . Ray said the same thing walker smith said about ezzard charles,you guys wanna see me get beat up,he was too big and too good....

Same day weigh in vs friday way ins. Big difference
And no current fighter has faught a 15 round fight