Sugar Ray Robinson vs the Modern Era. Not as easy as we think.

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  • -Kev-
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    #21
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Manny Pacquaio
    Felix Trinidad
    Pernell Whitaker
    Vernon Forrest
    Fernando Vargas
    Paul Williams
    Ike Quartey
    Antonio Margarito

    I could see how a couple of fighters in history could go undefeated against that list of fighters, in their prime.

    But I can not see how any fight in history would actually go undefeated through that list.

    I'd bet every penny in my bank account that SRR, SRL, what ever WW you wanna get, ends up with at least 1 loss from that list. It could happen, but it just would NOT happen. Whitaker would frustrate the hell out of SRR and possibly beat him, Oscar was a beast in his prime, WW Floyd from 2009-present would give prime SRR at least a 50-50 fight, Forrest was a boxer's nightmare, Williams was not an easy fight for any one at all, despite him not even being a HOF'er or anything like that, Quartey is beatable but again, not an easy outing for any one; not even prime DLH, the rest I think SRR should beat handily.

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    • LeG00N
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      #22
      Originally posted by Bloody$Nate$
      Please if you think Mosley was bad you better check up on some footage on another level of fighter in SRR


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      Please, Robinson was fighting for Tacos in Tijuana. He's overrated

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      • -Kev-
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        #23
        Originally posted by Bloody$Nate$
        Please if you think Mosley was bad you better check up on some footage on another level of fighter in SRR


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        A guy on that list already overwhelmed prime Brickerito, when his bricks were at their hardest. Paul Williams. Williams took those bricks to the chin and never even went down once.

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        • Tim2daresq
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          #24
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Oscar De La Hoya
          Floyd Mayweather Jr
          Manny Pacquaio
          Felix Trinidad
          Pernell Whitaker
          Vernon Forrest
          Fernando Vargas
          Paul Williams
          Ike Quartey
          Antonio Margarito

          I could see how a couple of fighters in history could go undefeated against that list of fighters, in their prime.

          But I can not see how any fight in history would actually go undefeated through that list.

          I'd bet every penny in my bank account that SRR, SRL, what ever WW you wanna get, ends up with at least 1 loss from that list. It could happen, but it just would NOT happen. Whitaker would frustrate the hell out of SRR and possibly beat him, Oscar was a beast in his prime, WW Floyd from 2009-present would give prime SRR at least a 50-50 fight, Forrest was a boxer's nightmare, Williams was not an easy fight for any one at all, despite him not even being a HOF'er or anything like that, Quartey is beatable but again, not an easy outing for any one; not even prime DLH, the rest I think SRR should beat handily.
          1) LMAO @ your Floyd comment. The only fighter I see giving SRR a "50/50" fight was SRL.

          2)Forrest was a boxer's nightmare to small Sugar Shane. SRR is every bit as big as Forrest, and was stronger, and faster than Shane.

          3) The rest are cannon fodder.
          Last edited by Tim2daresq; 04-12-2013, 05:30 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by MANIAC310
            Wait you realize Margarito takes him to hell and leaves him there right? .... he would brutalize Robinson and stop him in 10. He would knock out Williams and Forrest though, he would probably beat Vargas aswell.
            This is foolish! Margarito would have had his jaw, atleast one orbital socket and some break by Robinson. Leaves himself to stationary for Robinson and about half of the HOF welterweight boxers.

            And the fact you say Williams would beat him is a joke, I hope as well or you just have no history in that brain.
            Last edited by BigAlexSand; 04-12-2013, 05:37 PM.

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            • -Kev-
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              #26
              Originally posted by Tim2daresq
              1) LMAO @ your Floyd comment. The only fighter I see giving SRR a "50/50" fight was Sweet Pea.

              2)Forrest was a boxer's nightmare to small Sugar Shane. SRR is every bit as big as Forrest, and was stronger, and faster than Shane.

              3) The rest are cannon fodder.
              I expect much more of these posts of SRR being immune to losing a round. But none of these posts really mean anything though. No WW in history would actually go undefeated through that list, with those fighters in their prime. You wouldn't bet on that, you know that.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BigAlexSand
                This is foolish! Margarito would have had his jaw, atleast one orbital socket and some. Leaves himself to stationary for Robinson and about half of the HOF welterweight boxers.

                And the fact you say Williams would beat him is a joke, I hope as well or you just have no history in that brain.
                lmao...........


                the sad thing is it's true.

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                • Tim2daresq
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  I expect much more of these posts of SRR being immune to losing a round. But none of these posts really mean anything though. No WW in history would actually go undefeated through that list, with those fighters in their prime. You wouldn't bet on that, you know that.
                  No one said he wouldn't lose a round, but he would beat every single one of those fighters.

                  No one mentioned having to go through them one after the other. With injuries, and an accumulation of punishment, I'm sure he'd eventually lose to the last guy he'd have to face, depending on which fighter that was, but in a pure H2H, he wouldn't lose to a damn one of them.

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                  • boliodogs
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                    #29
                    If he has all these weaknesses then it's not a sure thing that no welterweight in history could beat him. As far as him being impossible to knock out, that is not true. He was hurt and knocked down many times. In the fight he lost to Jake LaMotta on February 5th 1943 LaMotta knocked Robinson out cold with a left hook at the end of the 8th round. In those days you could be saved by the bell. Robinson was saved from a certain KO when the bell ended the 8th round when the count had reached 8 with Robinson still flat on his back and not moving. LaMotta was not a real big puncher and welterweights like Hearns and Trinidad probably hit harder than LaMotta. Robinson was knocked down 9 times by 7 different fighters. Welterweight Tommy Bell knocked him down and light hitters Greaves and Archer knocked him down three times late in his career. I am not saying Robinson was not great. He surely was great. I just don't think he should be declared an automatic, sure thing winner over all the other great welterweights that he never fought.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bloody$Nate$
                      lmao wtf? go watch some tapes youngin.

                      2 totally different fighters. Pernell intentionally stuck his chin and tongue at you and still made you miss a 5 punch combination. Not to mention he was a good solid body puncher for somebody so defensive. His jab alone shiiiits on floyds work rate which wins him a H2H fight.

                      Sweat Pea and Leonard are the only fighters I give shot against SRR on his best day.

                      Williams and Margarito would be exciting fights with their work rate and chins but SRR is too much. He boxes Trinidad and Oscars ears off, and might stop a few of them, he definitely knocks out Pac and Hearns who would leave themselves vulnerable


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                      I aint young and you are confused....read the post again and pay attention to the purpose of the post which is in fact to highlight Sweet Pea as viable against SRR.

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