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  • JAB5239
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    #41
    Originally posted by Weltschmerz
    Well who knows man, maybe Lennox was just confused or undecisive as to whether he should hang em up. I think that's likely.

    As I said yesterday, I respect his decision not to rematch, but it was a clear duck, and that's also part of his legacy in many people's eyes.

    It is what it is.
    Lol, confused or indecisive? What do you say we bet avatars that I can provide another link where he talks about retirement BEFORE he fought Tyson? Come on, man up and lets make this interesting! Don't get scared now. We both know you can't hang with me, but show a little backbone or at least admit you're wrong. Its ok, everyone will forget about it in a few days. You just have to live with yourself and the shame of me embarrassing you again. Its the internet though...who cares?

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      #42
      Originally posted by Weltschmerz
      People here saying Evander would get on the inside and rough Wlad up... That's exactly what would not happen.

      Prime Tyson would be real trouble for Wlad, I agree on that, but Holyfield, no. Wlad would jab him down and KO him, like Bowe did in their third fight. Wlad wouldn't brawl with him, but put him to sleep, classic steelhammer style.
      Lol.

      What fight were you watching? Bowe didn't beat Evander with the jab. Bowe had to go to war with Evander in the later rounds in order to win the fight. If Wlad goes to war with Holyfield, Evander will turn his lights out...

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        #43
        Originally posted by Jeff Da Maori
        By the time Holyfield got to the 3rd Bowe fight he'd already been through wars with several guys much bigger and harder hitting than him. It's only natural that he would have lost something by then, 5hit, the wars he had at CW would have taken something out of him, let alone taking on Mercer, Foreman and Bowe x3.

        Prime Holyfield beats prime Wlad imo. I don't think he'd wipe the floor with him like some have said, as Wlad is fast for a big dude and it might take a few rounds for Holyfield to chase him down and start roughing him up, but I'd pick a TKO in 8-10 rounds.

        Wlad's holding tactics will go straight out the window the first time Holyfield headbutts him, and as he can't fight on the back foot and his inside game is literally non existent, he just won't be able to stop the pressure.
        I agree that it's a very competitive fight. Should Holyfield have managed to get the decision (I don't believe he'd KO Wlad), it would have been Holyfield's career best win.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Weltschmerz
          Good posts, thanks. Damn shame we could never see this fight, and that the Klitschko's weren't in the 90's instead.
          If the Klitschkos competed in the 90's - nobody today would know who they are. The four best HWs of the 90's were Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, Lewis - and I wouldn't pick either Klit over any of them...

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            #45
            Originally posted by Weltschmerz
            I agree that it's a very competitive fight. Should Holyfield have managed to get the decision (I don't believe he'd KO Wlad), it would have been Holyfield's career best win.
            LOL...

            Holyfield has beaten better fighters than Wlad. Who has Klitschko ever beat?

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              #46
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              Lol, confused or indecisive? What do you say we bet avatars that I can provide another link where he talks about retirement BEFORE he fought Tyson? Come on, man up and lets make this interesting! Don't get scared now. We both know you can't hang with me, but show a little backbone or at least admit you're wrong. Its ok, everyone will forget about it in a few days. You just have to live with yourself and the shame of me embarrassing you again. Its the internet though...who cares?
              Bring all the links you want, as if I give a flying fuck.

              Lewis said one thing before the fight, and the opposite straight after the fight. That's the point. Live with it.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                LOL...

                Holyfield has beaten better fighters than Wlad. Who has Klitschko ever beat?
                Nope, he hasn't.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                  I agree that it's a very competitive fight. Should Holyfield have managed to get the decision (I don't believe he'd KO Wlad), it would have been Holyfield's career best win.
                  I don't know he'd flat out KO Wlad, but I do think it's possible he could wear him down the point that the ref/corner would have to wave it off. Holyfield had a way of drawing people into a brawl and as athletically and technically gifted as Wlad is, I think his lack of inside skills would really let him down against someone as bullish as Holyfield.

                  I actually have huge respect for both brothers in not fighting Holyfield when he called them out, as they had nothing to gain but easy money. It was refreshing to see some morality

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                    Nope, he hasn't.
                    Yeah, he has.

                    Who has Klitschko ever beaten?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Jeff Da Maori
                      I don't know he'd flat out KO Wlad, but I do think it's possible he could wear him down the point that the ref/corner would have to wave it off. Holyfield had a way of drawing people into a brawl and as athletically and technically gifted as Wlad is, I think his lack of inside skills would really let him down against someone as bullish as Holyfield.

                      I actually have huge respect for both brothers in not fighting Holyfield when he called them out, as they had nothing to gain but easy money. It was refreshing to see some morality
                      Yeah, it's good they refuse to fight him at this stage.

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