Holyfield vs Wladimir?

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  • Weltschmerz
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    #61
    Originally posted by damuttz112
    Nope. IMO It's Holyfield's greatest win at Heavyweight.

    One of my favorite fights, a bit ugly at times but an all time classic conclusion. I remember the first round when Evander carelessly let his guard down and nearly paid for the price but getting hit with a straight right from Tyson.backing the ropes. His corner shouted to Evander "He ain't the bully, your the bully!" which demonstrated his corners mentality going into the fight.

    I've never seen anyone other than Douglas & Lewis (who was even more cautious against an aged Tyson) force him to go backwards unwillingly. Evander really starts to get going at the conclusion of the sixth, hitting Mike with combinations forcing him to all the way across the ring until his back hit the ropes.



    Mike was in turn one the one who was intimidated when Evander would not falter even after taking some vicious punishment in the fourth & fifth rounds he continued to push.

    There were many pundits who were choosing Mike the consummate brawler who many felt would overwhelm Evander who had not since lost to Bowe in their finale of their epic trilogy. Probably Evander's greatest win, but it's overshadowed by the infamous ear bite in the second bout.



    Bert Sugar - "When the intimidator fails to intimidate, he becomes the intimidated."

    It's one of the reasons why Holyfield is an ATG. His will was unbreakable.
    It was undoubtedly a great win, but Tyson was far from prime.

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    • Weltschmerz
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      #62
      Originally posted by damuttz112
      In retrospect,

      He was robbed of his place in the highlights of boxing history by being the oldest heavyweight champ ever and also a 6 time world champ, 5 of them heavyweight titles....and having won his first world title in 1986 it would have made a 2008 victory over Valuev an unprecedented 22 years between world titles! In turn would have given himself some form of closure. But because of that disgraceful decision he's still looking for that 'Championship'. And well of course his kiddy bills LOL.

      He is getting more and more respect in recent times though, I feel is is higher than Mike as an ATG accomplishing more at Heavyweight add the fact he is widely considered the greatest Crusierwieght of all time. He challenged for the Crusierweight title in only his 14th bout. Crazy huh?
      Evander has had a fantastic career, no doubt about it.

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      • LacedUp
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        #63
        Originally posted by Weltschmerz
        It was undoubtedly a great win, but Tyson was far from prime.
        Lol @ you saying Tyson was "far" from prime.

        I know you weren't around to watch that fight live son, but nobody gave Holyfield a chance. This is undoubtedly the best win of his career. Tyson was fresh from winning the WBC & WBA straps consecutively.

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        • Weltschmerz
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          #64
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          Lol @ you saying Tyson was "far" from prime.

          I know you weren't around to watch that fight live son, but nobody gave Holyfield a chance. This is undoubtedly the best win of his career. Tyson was fresh from winning the WBC & WBA straps consecutively.
          Well he was several years from prime. Not taking anything away from Holyfield, just saying.

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          • damuttz112
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            #65
            Tyson was still in his prime, he was just past his peak.

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            • redwhip
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              #66
              holy would bust wlad up. wlad doesnt have the resolve to deal with a guy as rugged and great as vander

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              • Nay_Sayer
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                #67
                Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                No. Tyson was long done at the time Holyfield fought him...
                Lol. During his career, Tyson was the Undisputed Champ, Linear Champ and the youngest title holder in the history of the HW division. Wlad is a paper champion, a Never Was and a brutal knockout waiting to happen.

                Tyson > Wlad

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                  Many boxing experts rate Evander among the top 10 HWs of all time. We saw him struggling against taller HWs like Bowe and Lewis. How do you think he would fare against Wladimir (in Holyfield's prime)?
                  Holyfield by KO.

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                  • DreamFighter
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                    #69
                    Wlad has no chance of avoiding a KO except to run from the much smaller man for 12 rounds.

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