Who ranks higher ATG, Lewis or Wladamir

[M Bison]

I'm hoping, and praying, that this is sarcasm.

No just a troll comment, couldn't help myself.

[DreamFighter]

Again I see it differently. Holyfiled is indeed an artist of boxing with the great skillset... But Wlad is much bigger fighter, extremely fast, extremely powerful, very skillful, and most of all extremely SMART! There is just no way you pull Wlad into brawling. Something he did against Bowe and against Foreman (to some degree).

that's true in a way. Wlad would never dare get in the ring with a fighter as dangerous as Foreman or Bowe, for starters.

[LacedUp]

i'm just saying, mate - there's a poster here whose username bears the legend, 'StellarCareer', lifted directly from a recent comment you made about Haye. and you're claiming not to have shown him overly generous amounts of regard here in the last couple months or so.

Who cares about that loser? Because I said Haye's CW career was stellar? So what man, get a life.

I have never, contrary to general belief, claimed Haye is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I just find his fights vastly more entertaining than Wlads. In fact, his last fight was more entertaining than any Wlad fight.

[IronDanHamza]

that's true in a way. Wlad would never dare get in the ring with a fighter as dangerous as Foreman or Bowe, for starters.

What exactly do you base this on?

[PEBBLES!]

That's the thing. This would never ever happen to Wlad - never!

You can't force him into brawling! He controls the distance perfectly. (of course I talk about experienced, prime Wlad).

think of all the men that Wlad has wielded seemingly masterful control of distance over, and then tell me who among them possesses the craft and ring nous of even a faded Holyfield?

Holyfield is a master of manipulating distance himself, something which a good in-fighter needs to be able to do just as much as a good out-fighter.

[M Bison]

Who cares about that loser? Because I said Haye's CW career was stellar? So what man, get a life.

I have never, contrary to general belief, claimed Haye is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I just find his fights vastly more entertaining than Wlads. In fact, his last fight was more entertaining than any Wlad fight.

David Haye's career in acting has been amazing so far, I actually fought when he said he was going to look to brawl with Wladimir that he would!
God so convincing someone get David Haye in the Expendables 3.

[PEBBLES!]

Who cares about that loser? Because I said Haye's CW career was stellar? So what man, get a life.

stellar CW career, my arse. you have some low standards, buddy.

need i remind you that you're the guy who just spent months defending the honour of a guy whom you just admitted is a fraud?

[M Bison]

think of all the men that Wlad has wielded seemingly masterful control of distance over, and then tell me who among them possesses the craft and ring nous of even a faded Holyfield?

Holyfield is a master of manipulating distance himself, something which a good in-fighter needs to be able to do just as much as a good out-fighter.

Samuel Peters?

[yoz]

Fair enough - this is forum after all - we are here to disagree

We're always going to disagree on this topic I fear (pretty sure we had the same discussion a few months back).

[gmc_rfc_06]

Holyfield would not be one of those guys that just allows Wlad to hold him inside.

Lots of people get in close with Wlad, but none of them were quality in fighters and allowed Wlad to hold them for a ref's break. Holyfield would have no trouble getting in there, and when he got there he would be getting free and throwing hooks and uppercuts.