Why don't fans make Andre Ward a draw?

[The Big Dunn]

More lies I see. You're good at making stuff up, but that's about it. In fact I never said a bad word about Floyd taking up Martinez's offer for 150. I'm trying to make that clear for you, so You can just stop imagining nonsense. Your entire argument this morning was fabricated in your head.

1. I never praised Ward for the Dawson win.

2. I never defended Ward saying he'd fight Floyd at 160.

3. I never said Floyd would be suspect if he accepted 150 Martinez's offer.

Everything you claimed this morning is a damn lie. Made up, in your head. But yet you return faithfully with more fabricated lies. What happened last night??

the other day you repeatedly posted I said floyd beats 168 lbers when I said he'd be the betting favorite vs dirrell and bute. Now you are getting upset because 4corners is attributing posts to you that you didn't make.

Can't say I'm not glad you are getting a dose of your own medicine.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

These dudes arent REAL fans of him.


You forgot about all the billygoat, dirty, and hes boring threads? Wait until his next fight.

Some people hate Ward. They just like using him to **** on Broner and Floyd. Ward is their example of what a black man SHOULD act like. He has to be humble, quiet, reserved, etc

Cokkiness, brashness, edginess, arrogance and confidence for some reason is frowned down upon when a African American athlete does it.

Ali
Tyson
Mayweather Jr
Broner
Toney
Hopkins

But Mayorga, Vargas, Camacho(rip), Rios,Froch, Paulie, Fury, Hamed, etc are badasses/funny/entertaining, etc . Thats why always say that SRL was the last African American who didn't have to go the bad guy route to crossover.

Its just how it is. Sad though. Look at guys like Mosley and Winky who never really crossed over and you cant say its because of Winkys style because look at Paul Williams people hated him and all he did was whoop ass, smile, give great interviews, didn't talk much trash, was a real humble yes sir no sir guy and he didn't sell ****.

Yet he fought like a warrior so the style excuse doesnt work with him either.

Shame.

[Bushbaby]

Alright Bush. So because Ward doesn't actually travel outside his weight yet, he can rain Dawson to 168. Okay. We can agree to disagree. You seem to have certain opinions on something with one guy, and another win another guy.

Cotto said he made 145 fine and could make it fine. You trash Manny.
Dawson said he made 168 fine and could make it fine. You don't trash Ward.

Sergio said he'd fight Floyd at 150....you say no, because Floyd said he doesn't need CW's.
Dawson said he'd fight Ward at 168, you say cool, because Ward has never fought outside 168.

Whatever......I guess you don't see what's wrong.

Ward didn't (drain) Dawson, the idiot drained himself.

Cotto wanted the fight at 147. He also said he'd only fight at 145 if his belt wasn't on the line. Arum forced him to fight there & put his title on the line, those are facts.

I also didn't say (No) to Floyd/Martinez at 150. I said what they both said cancelled each other out. But that does not mean that If Floyd called Martinez's bluff I'd blame him for it, it'd be Martinez's fault.

[cixthree]

Floyd has jump started Ward a fan base!

Floyd says something about Ward, now all of a sudden the same people who were so so about Ward jump on the WardWagon.
If Floyd praises a fighter (Broner), they hate him.
But if Floyd goes off on a fighter (Ward, Pacquiao), they love him.

Floyd has so much control over these idiots it's crazy. I bet if Floyd made a Pepsi commercial bashing coke, we'd see a ****e in cokes stock the following day.

Ward should thank Floyd, cause now the idiots can truly appreciate and support his skills.

[junior gong]

These dudes arent REAL fans of him.


You forgot about all the billygoat, dirty, and hes boring threads? Wait until his next fight.

Some people hate Ward. They just like using him to **** on Broner and Floyd. Ward is their example of what a black man SHOULD act like. He has to be humble, quiet, reserved, etc

****iness, brashness, edginess, arrogance and confidence for some reason isn't smiled down upon when a African American athlete does it.

Ali
Tyson
Mayweather Jr
Broner
Toney
Hopkins

But Mayorga, Vargas, Camacho(rip), Rios, Hamed, etc are badasses. Thats why always say that SRL was the last African American who didn't have to go the bad guy route to crossover.

Its just how it is. Sad though.

Burner playing the race card again!

[Bushbaby]

the other day you repeatedly posted I said floyd beats 168 lbers when I said he'd be the betting favorite vs dirrell and bute. Now you are getting upset because 4corners is attributing posts to you that you didn't make.

Can't say I'm not glad you are getting a dose of your own medicine.

And that's good for you bro.

[Bushbaby]

Anyway, I got to run & do my burpees real quick. But if Corners still wants it, I'll be here.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd says something about Ward, now all of a sudden the same people who were so so about Ward jump on the WardWagon.
If Floyd praises a fighter (Broner), they hate him.
But if Floyd goes off on a fighter (Ward, Pacquiao), they love him.

Floyd has so much control over these idiots it's crazy. I bet if Floyd made a Pepsi commercial bashing coke, we'd see a ****e in cokes stock the following day.

Ward should thank Floyd, cause now the idiots can truly appreciate and support his skills.

I like the manny lover posters that had ward not in the top 5 p4p then switched and put him #1.

surprisingly poster freedom didn't change his opinion when all this went down. I'm sure some others didn't switch either.

[-PBP-]

I would but he won't leave Oakland. I love the Bay area but don't want to use up vacation time to be out there.

If he fights in Vegas I would go to his fights just like I do others.

[Chris Collins]

These dudes arent REAL fans of him.


You forgot about all the billygoat, dirty, and hes boring threads? Wait until his next fight.

Some people hate Ward. They just like using him to **** on Broner and Floyd. Ward is their example of what a black man SHOULD act like. He has to be humble, quiet, reserved, etc

Cokkiness, brashness, edginess, arrogance and confidence for some reason is frowned down upon when a African American athlete does it.

Ali
Tyson
Mayweather Jr
Broner
Toney
Hopkins

But Mayorga, Vargas, Camacho(rip), Rios,Froch, Paulie, Fury, Hamed, etc are badasses/funny/entertaining, etc . Thats why always say that SRL was the last African American who didn't have to go the bad guy route to crossover.

Its just how it is. Sad though. Look at guys like Mosley and Winky who never really crossed over and you cant say its because of Winkys style because look at Paul Williams people hated him and all he did was whoop ass, smile, give great interviews, didn't talk much trash, was a real humble yes sir no sir guy and he didn't sell ****.

Yet he fought like a warrior so the style excuse doesnt work with him either.

Shame.

I'm quite sure andre ward is mixed race. White father and black mother.