Does Floyd Mayweather Jr have a top 5 resume (of the last 25 years)
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Oscar beating Campas, not in the Top 10 at the time, good win. Oscar beating Camacho, not in the Top 10 and hadn't done anything in awhile, good win. Oscar beats Castillejo, a pretty good fight at the time and Top 10, good win.
Floyd beating Mosley, #3 P4P/Top 2 WW/WBA WW champ, he beat an old shot fighter, crappy win. Floyd beating Ortiz or now Guerrero, both Top 2-3 WW, crappy win against crappy fighters. Floyd beating Manfredy/Chavez, both top 5 fighters at the weights fought at, ehhhh not good wins.
That's how this conversation is going....
I've actually seen people mention Corley as a notable win for Cotto, Matthysse, but no where to be seen when talking about Floyd's resume, who beat a prime Corley.Comment
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Oscar beating Campas, not in the Top 10 at the time, good win. Oscar beating Camacho, not in the Top 10 and hadn't done anything in awhile, good win. Oscar beats Castillejo, a pretty good fight at the time and Top 10, good win.
Floyd beating Mosley, #3 P4P/Top 2 WW/WBA WW champ, he beat an old shot fighter, crappy win. Floyd beating Ortiz or now Guerrero, both Top 2-3 WW, crappy win against crappy fighters. Floyd beating Manfredy/Chavez, both top 5 fighters at the weights fought at, ehhhh not good wins.
That's how this conversation is going....
No issues with the Mosley win, there was a degree of risk coming in.Comment
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True about Floyd, but that's why I say it's easy to argue for him. He gets badly underrated, all you gotta say is where the fighters he fought were at the time.
I've actually seen people mention Corley as a notable win for Cotto, Matthysse, but no where to be seen when talking about Floyd's resume, who beat a prime Corley.
How you win also counts~ which never really gets discussed. Floyd has 1 close fight, which he erased any doubt about. The guys Floyd has fought weren't chumps and he handled them with ease, Floyd has fought enough quality that he should have got in more close fights if he wasn't impressive.Comment
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Originally posted by JimLampleyManny has a better resume and he is nowhere near top 15 all time great, nice try though
Originally posted by JimLampleyYou guys never learn do you, its not the name, its the condition the fighter is in when they fight.Comment
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Floyd and Pac are my two current favorite fighters but if you look at their resumes closely, it's not that black and white. Pac getting knocked out by a guy Floyd dominated hurts his resume. They both beat Cotto, Pac beat a fresher version but it was at a catchweight while Floyd fought Cotto at the official weight, Pac has the edge because he stopped him. Floyd's win over Mosley > Pac's win over Mosley, Floyd's win over Hatton > Pac's win over Hatton (yes Pac beat Hatton at 140 but Hatton was never the same after Floyd KO'd him). The Oscar comparison is tricky, on paper Pac jumping up two weightclasses to stop Oscar is incredible but if you look at Oscar's condition, he was weightdrained and didn't even rehydrate, he was actually the lighter man on fight night! Floyd beat a younger, healthier and bigger Oscar and he was the smaller man on fight night. Pac lost to post-prime Morales the first time then beat him when he was even more past his prime. The victory over Barrera is great, can't criticize it, that win probably gives him the slight edge over Floyd.Comment
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Whitiker and Holyfield are obviously the best after that it is very murky.
B-Hop, Manny, Jones, Tito and Floyd are all essentially even pick and choose what you like and put them in any order. Lewis I would put just behind that group.
Tyson has a solid career but look at his career post 87 it isn't that great, although 88 was a real fine year for him.Comment
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Floyd 4 fights in the last 6 years should we add as well?
weight cheated Marquez
grandpa Mosley
sucker punched Ortiz
past prime CottoLast edited by straightleft; 03-01-2013, 02:12 AM.Comment
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