How many FULL Ray Robinson fights have you seen?

[110110110]

That was ****ing epic, I have not seen one fight where Floyd boxed better then Sugar did here.
And this was way past prime Sugar

One thing people also need to understand when comparing fighters of old with todays fighters is that back then the did not have TV or videos to study different boxing styles.
ALi said that Ray was the farther to his style.

Todays fighters have way better options of styles to chose from

[Larry the boss]

That was ****ing epic, I have not seen one fight where Floyd boxed better then Sugar did here.
And this was way past prime Sugar

One thing people also need to understand when comparing fighters of old with todays fighters is that back then the did not have TV or videos to study different boxing styles.
ALi said that Ray was the farther to his style.

Todays fighters have way better options of styles to chose from

he was 32..

[IronDanHamza]

he was 32..

Still well beyond his best days.

Although Rocky Graziano was shot to pieces by that point anyway.

[Larry the boss]

Still well beyond his best days.

Although Rocky Graziano was shot to pieces by that point anyway.

sure 32 may be getting out of your prime but you arnt.waaaaaaay out of your prime unless he took alot of beatings which i dont think he did but then again i wasnt alive then

[IronDanHamza]

sure 32 may be getting out of your prime but you arnt.waaaaaaay out of your prime unless he took alot of beatings which i dont think he did but then again i wasnt alive then

Well, that depends on the fighter doesn't it. Age is just a number, fighters age differently.

Take Wilfred Benitez for example, he was well passed his best before he was 30. Then take Bernard Hopkins who was at his peak in his 30's. People age differently.

Robinson was certainly passed his best in 1952. But, he was still one of the best fighters in the world.

[dan_cov]

he was 32..

You can't even debate with these historians, they just go on like they was there and twist the truths until they see fit.
You only have to look at how dates miraculously change, weights, venues and such

As if it wasn't bad enough the likes of these old managers padding their fighters records with fights that actually never happened (Harry Greb, Ezzard Charles & the likes), you now have these ''historians'' going their best to brainwash people and trying to change history by not only making stuff up but by editing Wikipedia & various other sites with their clutter they label as ''facts''

You can't debate when you're attacked by 18 all of who claim to of held Sugar Rays jockstrap & massaged his feet.
After being banned from the history section for disagreeing with a certain mod, I can no longer be ar5ed to debate, just let them create their own version of events.

At the end of the war Cocoa Kid, Kid Tunero, Holman Williams, Charley Burley, Lloyd Marshall, Archie Moore & the likes were all 150-160
Yet The GOAT Sugar Ray Robinson didn't fight a single one over a 3 year period.
Despite being called out on numerous occasions he fluctuated, fighting the weakest of the era, letting the best fight the best & take lumps out of each other, until they was completely shot or retired would he move up full time.

[Larry the boss]

Well, that depends on the fighter doesn't it. Age is just a number, fighters age differently.

Take Wilfred Benitez for example, he was well passed his best before he was 30. Then take Bernard Hopkins who was at his peak in his 30's. People age differently.

Robinson was certainly passed his best in 1952. But, he was still one of the best fighters in the world.

wasnt he fighter of the decade in the 50's?

[IronDanHamza]

You can't even debate with these historians, they just go on like they was there and twist the truths until they see fit.
You only have to look at how dates miraculously change, weights, venues and such

As if it wasn't bad enough the likes of these old managers padding their fighters records with fights that actually never happened (Harry Greb, Ezzard Charles & the likes), you now have these ''historians'' going their best to brainwash people and trying to change history by not only making stuff up but by editing Wikipedia & various other sites with their clutter they label as ''facts''

You can't debate when you're attacked by 18 all of who claim to of held Sugar Rays jockstrap & massaged his feet.
After being banned from the history section for disagreeing with a certain mod, I can no longer be ar5ed to debate, just let them create their own version of events.

At the end of the war Cocoa Kid, Kid Tunero, Holman Williams, Charley Burley, Lloyd Marshall, Archie Moore & the likes were all 150-160
Yet The GOAT Sugar Ray Robinson didn't fight a single one over a 3 year period.
Despite being called out on numerous occasions he fluctuated, fighting the weakest of the era, letting the best fight the best & take lumps out of each other, until they was completely shot or retired would he move up full time.

TheGreatA has already shut done this nonsense.

Repeating it isn't going to do anything different.

[Larry the boss]

You can't even debate with these historians, they just go on like they was there and twist the truths until they see fit.
You only have to look at how dates miraculously change, weights, venues and such

As if it wasn't bad enough the likes of these old managers padding their fighters records with fights that actually never happened (Harry Greb, Ezzard Charles & the likes), you now have these ''historians'' going their best to brainwash people and trying to change history by not only making stuff up but by editing Wikipedia & various other sites with their clutter they label as ''facts''

You can't debate when you're attacked by 18 all of who claim to of held Sugar Rays jockstrap & massaged his feet.
After being banned from the history section for disagreeing with a certain mod, I can no longer be ar5ed to debate, just let them create their own version of events.

At the end of the war Cocoa Kid, Kid Tunero, Holman Williams, Charley Burley, Lloyd Marshall, Archie Moore & the likes were all 150-160
Yet The GOAT Sugar Ray Robinson didn't fight a single one over a 3 year period.
Despite being called out on numerous occasions he fluctuated, fighting the weakest of the era, letting the best fight the best & take lumps out of each other, until they was completely shot or retired would he move up full time.

man im just wondering how a guy who WAS the best and Was DOMINATING EVERYONE WAS SO PAST HIS PRIME AT 32...seriously he hadnt taken any beatings so how was he so past it at 32?

[IronDanHamza]

wasnt he fighter of the decade in the 50's?

Arguably.

Certainly one of them.