Is the US really no longer a boxing powerhouse?

[JAB5239]

It was basicly a word sport then also. Just cause a few countries did not let there boxers go pro does not make a big difference. Cuban boxers still can't.

But besides that, USA will always be a power house.....people are saying they are falling off because of the olympics failures, but ameture boxing is so different then pro. Also amature boxing is going back to no head gear and no longer going to be using that ****** point system and Americans seem to have more of a pro style so they will be fine.

American heavyweights are toast though.

I agree with all of this except the very last sentence. America will have another prominent heavyweight champion again, its only a matter of time.

[ShoulderRoll]

Freedom is an obvious racist. I don't know why the mods let him keep posting his bull****.

[JAB5239]

That thread is a pathetic mess of nationalistic baiting, which is all it was designed for. I see very few facts from those arguing against the idea the football and basketballs popularity have hurt boxing in terms of the best athletes entering it. I haven't see anyone bring up college and economic reasons. Someone correct me if Im wrong, but isn't college in Europe free or at least much cheaper than it is here? I know it is very expensive here and boxing is not amongst the sports you can receive scholarship money. From an early age kids are exposed to football and basketball in school. Sports is also the easiest way to an education for those who can't afford it. I know thousands and thousands of scholarships are given out every year for football and basketball. How many are given out for boxing in the US. So its just ridiculous to think that hasn't had an impact on our larger fighters. As the world opens up of course it will gain ground on whoever is in the lead at ANYTHING, that's just how the cookie crumbles. But to think there are no other contributing factors is just ignorance.

I really didn't expect any of the nationalistic pussies to answer this post. It would require to much research for them and take away from their own argument of "you guys suck!".

Lol, what a bunch of clowns and sheep up in here!

[StarshipTrooper]

I really didn't expect any of the nationalistic pussies to answer this post. It would require to much research for them and take away from their own argument of "you guys suck!".

Lol, what a bunch of clowns and sheep up in here!

Oh no, they won't come anywhere near this thread since they can't control it by blocking people from posting in it. They're stick to Tunney's thread where they can collectively shout down any "token" critics that aren't on Tunney's ignore list :chuckle9:

Poet

[Faerun]

Why is Freedom. registered on a neo-**** forum?

[JAB5239]

Freedom is an obvious racist. I don't know why the mods let him keep posting his bull****.

It is what it is. Has no bearing on this thread though. Don't even sweat it bro.

[JAB5239]

Why is Freedom. registered on a neo-**** forum?

He has been for a long time and was busted out on it years ago.

Poet

Guys, stay on topic please. This isn't a thread to slam any poster. We all know the details, no need to rehash it.

Thank you.

[StarshipTrooper]

Guys, stay on topic please. This isn't a thread to slam any poster. We all know the details, no need to rehash it.

Thank you.

No problem :cool9:

[The Future]

I agree with all of this except the very last sentence. America will have another prominent heavyweight champion again, its only a matter of time.

They will have another one, but as a whole I really think they are through.

[JAB5239]

More facts!!


As I've already stated the US certainly loses potential boxers to other sports because of the advantages of possibly getting scholarships to better ones self. European countries don't have this problem because it is either free to go to college or cheap enough where most can afford it.

Here is the breakdown of schools allowed to offer athletic scholarships.

Division 1 - There are 50 schools with a total 83 scholarships each.That is 4150 athletes a year.

Division 1AA - There are 111 schools with 63 scholarships each. That is 6993 athletes a year.

Division 2 - There are 282 schools with 63 scholarships each. That is 17,766 athletes a year.

This means The United States keeps almost 30,000 kids looking to get into college every year interested in a sports other than boxing. So that means yes, the talent pool is depleted every single year in the US.