Is the US really no longer a boxing powerhouse?

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  • illmaticfighter
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    #71
    I'm 24 and was always interested in boxing at a young age so were many of my friends but of course we had no gyms anywhere near us so we chose football instead.

    Every public school in the US has a gym and a football field.

    Now imagine if just about every US high public school from 9 to 12 grade had a facility for boxing with a boxing coach there and they had like a season of some sort or a boxing tournament.

    Also imagine if kids could get a scholarship for going to college to become a boxer the Olympic team would be stacked so would the crop of fighters turning pro.

    I wish i was a boxing manager or promoter i'd take all these failed nba and nfl players and turn them into boxers not saying all of these experiments would work but im sure there are some diamonds in the ruff.

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      #72
      Originally posted by illmaticfighter
      I'm 24 and was always interested in boxing at a young age so were many of my friends but of course we had no gyms anywhere near us so we chose football instead.

      Every public school in the US has a gym and a football field.

      Now imagine if just about every US high public school from 9 to 12 grade had a facility for boxing with a boxing coach there and they had like a season of some sort or a boxing tournament.

      Also imagine if kids could get a scholarship for going to college to become a boxer the Olympic team would be stacked so would the crop of fighters turning pro.

      I wish i was a boxing manager or promoter i'd take all these failed nba and nfl players and turn them into boxers not saying all of these experiments would work but im sure there are some diamonds in the ruff.

      This is so true and exactly the reason no one opposing this train of thought in the troll thread wants to challenge any of it here. People who hate facts love living in a fantasy world supporting to own agenda's. Very sad indeed.

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        #73
        How awesome would it be if high schools had boxing teams? And if those kids could get a scholarship to a university boxing team?

        If I was rich I would look into establishing programs like that.

        Then again boxing might be considered too violent and dangerous for high schoolers in this day and age. Even though football is probably far more damaging and has more injuries.

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          #74
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          How awesome would it be if high schools had boxing teams? And if those kids could get a scholarship to a university boxing team?

          If I was rich I would look into establishing programs like that.

          Then again boxing might be considered too violent and dangerous for high schoolers in this day and age. Even though football is probably far more damaging and has more injuries.

          I think it would be even better if our education system was set up like Europe, where everyone who wants an education can continue. Many of us had it crammed down our throats that Football, Baseball, Basketball, Wrestling, Track and other sports would open doors for education we could not otherwise afford whether partially or all the way. Boxing gives us no other opportunities except hard knocks. In essence, if you want the best chance to improve upon yourself, you don't choose the sport, the sport chooses you!

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          • New England
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            #75
            Originally posted by ghost deini
            no you have haters coz ur usually arrogant twats that think the world revoles around America

            jus sayin


            boxing all but revolves around america

            that is what it is.

            recognition of that is not arrogant. it's practical.

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              #76
              Originally posted by New England
              boxing all but revolves around america

              that is what it is.

              recognition of that is not arrogant. it's practical.
              Vasyl Lomachenko pretty much said these exact words which is why he plans to fight professionally here after the Olympics. He didn't sound bitter about it, only matter of fact. I can't understand why some fans would hold that against a country unless their agenda isn't sports driven, but rather political.

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              • Sportofkings
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                #77
                Originally posted by New England
                boxing all but revolves around america

                that is what it is.

                recognition of that is not arrogant. it's practical.
                Its changing overtime though, boxing in europe is slowly on the rise. Very rarely will you see an American boxer pack out 50 k stadiums for easy title defenses. The Klitschko's do that every time

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Sportofkings
                  Its changing overtime though, boxing in europe is slowly on the rise. Very rarely will you see an American boxer pack out 50 k stadiums for easy title defenses. The Klitschko's do that every time
                  yes, that's very true

                  cruiserweight is european based as well

                  and for a period of time the big fights at MW were taking place in germany


                  still though, and i'm sure you'll agree, the sport is for the most part still based here. fighters still aspire to fight here. the best trainers and the best sparring can be found here. we have the best gyms. and we've got the most imported talent.

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                  • thebrawler
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    For those who say the United States is still not a powerhouse in boxing lets do the math according to Ring magazine. Now my final numbers are off by 8, but you will have to excuse me because it is 5am. Here's a breakdown of countries and top 10 fighters represented in every weight class including p4p.

                    United States 36
                    Mexico 30
                    Japan 17
                    UK 15
                    Philippines 14
                    Thailand 7
                    Russia 6
                    Germany 5
                    South Africa 5
                    Poland 4
                    Cuba 4
                    Ukraine 4
                    Panama 4
                    Argentina 4
                    Dominican Republic 3
                    Puerto Rico 3
                    Canada 3
                    Australia 2
                    Kazakhstan 2
                    Armenia 2
                    Nigeria 2
                    Spain 1
                    Denmark 1
                    Malawi 1
                    Romania 1
                    Cameroon 1
                    France 1
                    Slovenia 1
                    Uganda 1
                    Bulgaria 1
                    Italy 1

                    Seriously, has the US fallen off that badly considering boxing is now a "world sport" in comparison to the years when communists were not allowed to go pro? Im not a nationalist, Im only responding to the US bait threads I've seen pop up the last few days. Thoughts?

                    word up!!!

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                    • Sportofkings
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by New England
                      yes, that's very true

                      cruiserweight is european based as well

                      and for a period of time the big fights at MW were taking place in germany


                      still though, and i'm sure you'll agree, the sport is for the most part still based here. fighters still aspire to fight here. the best trainers and the best sparring can be found here. we have the best gyms. and we've got the most imported talent.
                      No doubt, and long may it continue, I cant begrudge the US their place as the centre of boxing, considering what a history they have had with the sport.

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