Tim Bradley ducked Randall Bailey too!

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by THE REED™
    Ducking is a subjective term, a completely opinionated term. What is ducking to one person is not to another. When a fighter like Pacquiao jumps up to LW to fight the weakest title holder just to grab a title for the record books... he's ducking the better champions at the weight... Hell same with Roy for fighting Ruiz instead of Lewis.

    A fighter not making a fight with another fighter is not automatically a duck, especially when you are aligning yourself for a mega fight against a better fighter than the said fighter you are perceived as ducking. If the Pacquiao fight didn't happen, and Bradley still didn't fight Khan, then that is a duck.... fortunately though, he did.

    Thats how I see it, and thats how the cookie crumbles.
    It is when you you don't fight a guy for a fight that's not guaranteed to you.

    And we've established the fight certainly was not guaranteed in any way.

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    • THE REED
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      #52
      It isn't when you take every necessary step to put yourself in perfect position to get it... and then get this part.... get it.

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        #53
        Originally posted by THE REED™
        Ducking is a subjective term, a completely opinionated term. What is ducking to one person is not to another. When a fighter like Pacquiao jumps up to LW to fight the weakest title holder just to grab a title for the record books... he's ducking the better champions at the weight... Hell same with Roy for fighting Ruiz instead of Lewis.

        A fighter not making a fight with another fighter is not automatically a duck, especially when you are aligning yourself for a mega fight against a better fighter than the said fighter you are perceived as ducking. If the Pacquiao fight didn't happen, and Bradley still didn't fight Khan, then that is a duck.... fortunately though, he did.

        Thats how I see it, and thats how the cookie crumbles.
        End thread...

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          #54
          Originally posted by THE REED™
          Bradley planned it, took the steps and it happened perfectly. Don't take an unnecessary risk right before having a GREAT chance at a mega fight and payday against Manny Pacquiao... He took the perfect steps by signing with Top Rank, and the rest proves he did it right. Good for him.
          It's not unnecessary when it's not only a fight that everyone wants to see between the #1 and #2 fighters in a division, but he called him out on national television for a fight in July of 2011.

          He was offered a fight with Khan and he turned down because he knew he may lose and risk a different fight. That's a duck.

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            #55
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            It is when you you don't fight a guy for a fight that's not guaranteed to you.

            And we've established the fight certainly was not guaranteed in any way.
            Can he still fight Bailey or Khan? Or is it too late? I must not have been paying attention... Oh, and when he fights Bailey and Khan, is the fight worth more money NOW or THEN??

            Kinda like how Leonard stalled the fight with Hearns... Would u call that a duck, or a smart business decision considering the money and the fame he got for the fight

            Or is it a "temporary" duck... Is that a new boxing term now? Temporary ducking... :wank:

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              #56
              Originally posted by THE REED™
              It isn't when you take every necessary step to put yourself in perfect position to get it... and then get this part.... get it.
              No I believe Bradley should have fought Khan and stay with Shaw and not have a victory over one of the best fighters on the planet...This sounds like the smarter choice...

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                #57
                Originally posted by THE REED™
                Sweep steaks?

                Is that like a restaurant?

                The Casa fight was part of the deal, Arum wanted him on his card to build the fight. The Casa fight was part of the Pacquiao deal.

                Bradley signed to fight a more dangerous opponent, that's a fact, period end of.




                I like my sweep steaks medium rare.

                And if I eat steak, somebody will claim I ducked hamburger.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by THE REED™
                  It isn't when you take every necessary step to put yourself in perfect position to get it... and then get this part.... get it.
                  2nd choice is perfect position?

                  The fact he got it is irrelevant, it doesn't change that he turned down a fight in fear of losing.

                  If he were guaranteed the Pacquaio fight immediately after the Casamayor fight which you claimed then you would have a point. But, he wasn't.

                  Not fighting the best fighter in your division other than yourself for a mere chance at a top P4P fighter is a duck.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by JDezi4
                    Can he still fight Bailey or Khan? Or is it too late? I must not have been paying attention... Oh, and when he fights Bailey and Khan, is the fight worth more money NOW or THEN??

                    Kinda like how Leonard stalled the fight with Hearns... Would u call that a duck, or a smart business decision considering the money and the fame he got for the fight

                    Or is it a "temporary" duck... Is that a new boxing term now? Temporary ducking... :wank:
                    He didn't duck Randall Bailey.

                    And yeah he can still fight Khan. Like I said, not for a second do I think Bradley is afraid of Khan. Still doesn't change the fact he ducked him. But with the amount of revisionist history going on, I'd say it might change that fact.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                      No I believe Bradley should have fought Khan and stay with Shaw and not have a victory over one of the best fighters on the planet...This sounds like the smarter choice...
                      He should have fought Khan in July when he called him out on national television.

                      As opposed to walking away in fear of losing which would ruin his chance at a Pacquaio fight.

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