Tim Bradley ducked Randall Bailey too!

[IronDanHamza]

Your a smart guy and what your arguing would work or fly on the schoolyard or the streets..But this is neither,it's a business..I just told you Khan said(on national TV as you love to point out)he'd fight Maidana,Bradley would fight Alexander and the winners would fight each other...He could have fought Bradley straight out after Bradley beat Alexander..Bradley had a date in June,which would have been perfect,because it would have been in the extension he signed time length...

But he didn't fight McCloskey instead of Bradley though.

He fought McCloskey at the start of the year of 2011 or near the start if I remember.

Bradley said around that same time he wanted Khan in July. Khan was still going to fight in July, and did fight in July. That's was ideal and Bradley was fine with that.

Khan had a stay busy fight in the UK in between, the Bradley fight was still on the cards at that point. Him fighting McCloskey didn't stop anything from happening.

Then, when the fight came along for July. Bradley walked away.

Instead Khan choose to fight Mccloskey(total business move before fighting Bradley)and signed a three fight deal...So let's say close to 6mill when we talking about Khan(with his UK money)...Do you believe Bradley to be ******??Why would he take a deal in which Khan already has the upper hand??If I was offered a deal with TR I take it over the Khan deal every day of the week and twice on Sundays..

He didn't fight him "instead", though.

I don't believe Bradley to be ******, no. He strikes me as a smart man.

He should have taken the deal because it was a fair deal. One in which he claimed he wanted, and made perfect sense to happen in July. The stars were aligned.

He didn't have to take the TR deal over the Khan deal. He should have fought Khan in July, then signed with TR.

[Rome-By-Ko]

But he didn't fight McCloskey instead of Bradley though.

He fought McCloskey at the start of the year of 2011 or near the start if I remember.

Bradley said around that same time he wanted Khan in July. Khan was still going to fight in July, and did fight in July. That's was ideal and Bradley was fine with that.

Khan had a stay busy fight in the UK in between, the Bradley fight was still on the cards at that point. Him fighting McCloskey didn't stop anything from happening.

Then, when the fight came along for July. Bradley walked away.



He didn't fight him "instead", though.

I don't believe Bradley to be ******, no. He strikes me as a smart man.

He should have taken the deal because it was a fair deal. One in which he claimed he wanted, and made perfect sense to happen in July. The stars were aligned.

He didn't have to take the TR deal over the Khan deal. He should have fought Khan in July, then signed with TR.

Khan could have fought Bradley instead of Mccloskey..What part of that don't you get??How long was Khan out of the ring 5 or 6 months that's not long..Like I said he thought he was calling shots on Bradley and it back fired on him...

You say stay busy fight,yet Khan signed a 3 fight deal with his promoter and HBO..While Bradley was doing what??Fighting Alexander and keeping his end of the bargain..If he really wanted the fight he should have made it happen in June...Oh btw Bradley does not make his own fights,that's what a promoter and Manager are for...It's Bradley's job to make the right choice when presented his options...He did just that..

[IronDanHamza]

Khan could have fought Bradley instead of Mccloskey..What part of that don't you get??How long was Khan out of the ring 5 or 6 months that's not long..Like I said he thought he was calling shots on Bradley and it back fired on him...

He could have fought both. What part of that don't you get?

Why does it matter he fought McCloskey? It didn't stop the Bradley fight. He didn't fight him instead. He fought him in April. He was still open for a July bout with Bradley and both were on board with that.

You say stay busy fight,yet Khan signed a 3 fight deal with his promoter and HBO..While Bradley was doing what??Fighting Alexander and keeping his end of the bargain..If he really wanted the fight he should have made it happen in June...Oh btw Bradley does not make his own fights,that's what a promoter and Manager are for...It's Bradley's job to make the right choice when presented his options...He did just that..

If he really wanted the fight? Are you actually implying Khan didn't want the fight?

If he really wanted the fight, he would have tried to make it happen in July. Which, he did.

I know he doesn't make his own fights. He and his promoter set aside a July date for Amir Khan for the last fight on his contract. Amir Khan obliged, and was set for July and then Bradley walked away because he was at risk of losing the Pacquaio fight if he lost.

I don't think he made the right choice. He made a good choice, but the right choice would have been to fight Khan in July, then pursue the Pacquaio fight once Khan's out the way.

[Rome-By-Ko]

He could have fought both. What part of that don't you get?

Why does it matter he fought McCloskey? It didn't stop the Bradley fight. He didn't fight him instead. He fought him in April. He was still open for a July bout with Bradley and both were on board with that.



If he really wanted the fight? Are you actually implying Khan didn't want the fight?

If he really wanted the fight, he would have tried to make it happen in July. Which, he did.

I know he doesn't make his own fights. He and his promoter set aside a July date for Amir Khan for the last fight on his contract. Amir Khan obliged, and was set for July and then Bradley walked away because he was at risk of losing the Pacquaio fight if he lost.

I don't think he made the right choice. He made a good choice, but the right choice would have been to fight Khan in July, then pursue the Pacquaio fight once Khan's out the way.

I understand what ya saying now..So it would have been the right choice for Bradley to take risk and Khan take none..

The point of my post(I'll simplify it for you)Khan fought Mccloskey because it would guarantee him three fights with HBO and his promoter who he was happy with..Instead of fighting Bradley on his date when it was clear his contract would expire and he(Bradley would have to sign an extension)and be tied to a promoter he clearly wanted to leave..Not to mention Khan said on National TV he would fight Maidana while Bradley fought Alexander then the winners would fight each other...Don't remember Mcclosekey in that speech right there...

Bradley does not set aside a date,Shaw does..funny how Shaw did not push for a fight on Bradley's date when he himself knew the fight would exceed Bradley's contract...Sounds like a motive to make the fight in July and tell Bradley that's when the fight will be..Although Bradley had other plans..

Like I said the fight favored Khan,the better deal was with TR as you see now..It's clear as day bro..

Long story short,Bradley taking all the risk..If Khan fights Bradley instead of Mccloskey,even playing field...But Khan going off to sign a 3 fight deal kind makes it cool that Bradley also went for better business..

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I just heard an interview with Randall Bailey, this is a quote:

"me and tim bradley had a signed contract to fight at 140 on Shobox. I'm sitting at home waiting, packing to leave to get on the plane to fly to California the next day. I get a call saying there ain't no plane ticket, Tim Bradley pulled out of the fight. The week of the fight!"

So Bradley didn't only duck Khan, he also ducked Randall Bailey.

Dude, he'd demolish that old dude and he'd make Khan quit on his stool. He ducked second tier guys to fight Pac.....that even sound like it makes sense to you?

And why would Bradley go from HBO PPV headlining to Showbox?

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No big surprise I can imagine Bradleys reasoning as well "what if I lose to Bailey I'm out of the sweep steaks for the big gift decisions, I mean fights"

All I have to say is Timmy has 5 mill now and Bailey got like 30 bucks for his last fight....what decision would you have made?

[IronDanHamza]

I understand what ya saying now..So it would have been the right choice for Bradley to take risk and Khan take none..

They were both taking risks.

Bradley was open about wanting Pacquaio and Khan was open about wanting Mayweather.

A loss for either would hurt those chances.

The point of my post(I'll simplify it for you)Khan fought Mccloskey because it would guarantee him three fights with HBO and his promoter who he was happy with..Instead of fighting Bradley on his date when it was clear his contract would expire and he(Bradley would have to sign an extension)and be tied to a promoter he clearly wanted to leave..Not to mention Khan said on National TV he would fight Maidana while Bradley fought Alexander then the winners would fight each other...Don't remember Mcclosekey in that speech right there...

Him fighting McCloskey didn't do anything to hurt the Bradley fight. The fight was still open for a July date.

And he didn't have to sign an extension. He had one fight left on his contract which was supposed to be Khan in July. Both were on board with that and when the time came, Bradley walked away from it. This is a fact that I've repeated time and time again. And nothing will change the fact he walked away from the fight.

Bradley does not set aside a date,Shaw does..funny how Shaw did not push for a fight on Bradley's date when he himself knew the fight would exceed Bradley's contract...Sounds like a motive to make the fight in July and tell Bradley that's when the fight will be..Although Bradley had other plans..

Who knows.

That's just speculation on your part on Shaw's intentions.

Like I said the fight favored Khan,the better deal was with TR as you see now..It's clear as day bro..

Long story short,Bradley taking all the risk..If Khan fights Bradley instead of Mccloskey,even playing field...But Khan going off to sign a 3 fight deal kind makes it cool that Bradley also went for better business..

That's just absurd What difference does Khan fighting McCloskey make? If he didn't fight him, how does that change the deal that they made for July?

It doesn't make it cool because Bradley didn't take the fight If Khan walked away from the fight to sign with a different company in chance to fight a P4P fighter than he would have ducked the fight also.

And the best deal he could have done was fight Khan in July, beat him, then sign with TR and hope for the big one with Pacquaio.

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When a fighter says himself that he didn't fight someone in case they lost its an irrefutable duck nothing you says changes that.

So why did Khan fight McCloskey after Tim fought Alexander and called Khan out? All he had to do is wait a few months...it was an easier fight I guess.

[IronDanHamza]

So why did Khan fight McCloskey after Tim fought Alexander and called Khan out? All he had to do is wait a few months...it was an easier fight I guess.

What difference does it make?

He could have fought McCloskey in April and Bradley in July, like planned.

[Rome-By-Ko]

They were both taking risks.

Bradley was open about wanting Pacquaio and Khan was open about wanting Mayweather.

A loss for either would hurt those chances.



Him fighting McCloskey didn't do anything to hurt the Bradley fight. The fight was still open for a July date.

And he didn't have to sign an extension. He had one fight left on his contract which was supposed to be Khan in July. Both were on board with that and when the time came, Bradley walked away from it. This is a fact that I've repeated time and time again. And nothing will change the fact he walked away from the fight.



Who knows.

That's just speculation on your part on Shaw's intentions.



That's just absurd What difference does Khan fighting McCloskey make? If he didn't fight him, how does that change the deal that they made for July?

It doesn't make it cool because Bradley didn't take the fight If Khan walked away from the fight to sign with a different company in chance to fight a P4P fighter than he would have ducked the fight also.

And the best deal he could have done was fight Khan in July, beat him, then sign with TR and hope for the big one with Pacquaio.

What deal was made between Bradley and Khan for July??Bradley never signed a contract agreeing to a fight with Khan in July..So what are you talking about brother..

You wanna know what a real duck is,when a fight is signed(Bradley Maidana fight was signed when Maidana pulled out)and a fighter walks away...Bradley never agreed to anything so that's not a fact...

Bradley would have to sign an extension if his contract time had run it's course..That's also a fact..Yes he had one fight,but he had to be under contract with Shaw to deliver it..I truly don't understand whats so hard to understand..TR had a better deal,it's not even debatable..TR had Pac and JMM either are far better options then Khan..

What's even more funny,it's Bradley(the guy who has put in more work none the less)that should have made provisions for Khan..Who had been KO'd and only fought one top 5 fighter..Understandable...