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Not really. Not in this context.
Are Top Rank really going to lie about Cotto being their first choice? Please, explain to me what they gain from lieing about that.
Anyway, it's irrelevant regardless because Miguel Cotto himself has stated he was approached by Pacquaio's team and they couldn't agree on the weight.
Are you going to tell me they're both lieing? For what? To cover up Bradley was the first choice? Again, for what?
What you're saying doesn't make sense. You've said that Bradley didn't fight Khan because he chose Pacquaio instead. Frankly, that is utter bull****. Casamayor and Pacquaio was not the deal he was given and never at any time was Bradley guaranteed a Pacquaio fight. You simply have nothing to prove that except he was on an undercard of Pacquaio's, which could have been for any reason or simply no particular reason and everything else clearly indicates that he wasn't guaranteed that fight. He wasn't even first choice for June 9th and both Top Rank, Pacquaio's team and Miguel Cotto's team have confirmed that.
You can say he didn't fight Khan "In hope" that he might get a Pacquaio fight and he didn't want to risk losing that chance. Because essentially, that's exactly what he did and has admitted he did. I understand why he did that, it makes sense and it paid off. Still doesn't change the fact that that is a duck, atleast in my eyes it is. Do I think Bradley is afraid of Khan? Absolutely not. I don't think Tim Bradley is afraid of anyone.
But the fact remains he didn't fight Khan because he didn't want to even risk the chance of losing when he knew that he was on the list and near the top for a future Pacquaio fight.Comment
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Yep..............As much as I wanted/still want to see a Bradley/Khan fight, Bradley made a smart decision. When Bradley said 'If I lose, I'm out of the Pacquiao sweepstakes', he basically meant '**** happens, and I can't take that risk RIGHT NOW if I want to ensure that I get that big $$$ fight with Pac.' BTW, Bradley never said Khan was gonna be an easy fight. And guess what??? Khan is still there for him to fight. Who cares why Bradley fought Casamayor, really? I believe he was guaranteed a million plus (by HBO?) for the next fight after Alexander anyway. He was a stay busy fight after not having fought in 9+ months, just like Khan supposedly took McCloskey to stay busy. I swear, some people hate Bradley more than they love Khan.
This past weekends fight is a perfect example of '**** happens'. Ortiz was SUPPOSED to be in a big money fight in September after fighting and beating Lopez last Saturday night. **** happened, Oritz LOST... and now he is no longer in the Alvarez 'sweepstakes'.Comment
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Im not going to argue pointless semantics with you. Whether you want to use hope, targeted, whatever words you want to use I dont care. The end result, which is the end result he wanted and went after is exaclt what happened.
He didn't fight Khan, becaue the risk wasn't worth it because if he lost a Pacquiao fight was out, he signed with Top Rank and was automatically put on the undercard... I'd say it's pretty damn clear representation to both Bradley and Top Rank where he was at in a fight against Pacquiao. If you want to argue was he #1, or #2 on the list? I couldnt care less about the pointless semantics of it... the fact is he knew he was putting himself in the best possible situation to secure a huge payday against the best fighter he could face.... it worked, and he got the fight.
It's not a duck to me, if it is to you.. great grand wonderful.
I'm tired of repeating myself on the subject.Comment
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Exactly. How is that not a duck?As much as I wanted/still want to see a Bradley/Khan fight, Bradley made a smart decision. When Bradley said 'If I lose, I'm out of the Pacquiao sweepstakes', he basically meant '**** happens, and I can't take that risk RIGHT NOW if I want to ensure that I get that big $$$ fight with Pac.' BTW, Bradley never said Khan was gonna be an easy fight. And guess what??? Khan is still there for him to fight. Who cares why Bradley fought Casamayor, really? I believe he was guaranteed a million plus (by HBO?) for the next fight after Alexander anyway. He was a stay busy fight after not having fought in 9+ months, just like Khan supposedly took McCloskey to stay busy. I swear, some people hate Bradley more than they love Khan.
This past weekends fight is a perfect example of '**** happens'. Ortiz was SUPPOSED to be in a big money fight in September after fighting and beating Lopez last Saturday night. **** happened, Oritz LOST... and now he is no longer in the Alvarez 'sweepstakes'.
I understand it's a smart move. It paid off and I'm happy for him. But this doesn't change what he did and admitted, which is, "I didn't fight Khan because what if I lose? I'd ruin my chance at a Pacquaio fight" (Paraphrasing).
And I don't knock Bradley for fighting Casamayor. I obviously don't give him credit for it but he took it because he was coming off a lay off and shaking off the rust. And that's fair enough, almost every fighter does that.
As for Ortiz, obviously it's different. If Ortiz and another fighter were the #1 and #2 in a division and everyone wanted to see it, Ortiz called him out on TV, then he came out and said "I don't want to fight him right now because I may lose and that mean's I'll lose my chance at a huge Alvarez fight" then that would be an obvious duck. Smart business decision or not.Comment
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What you're saying is false, though.
Again, Bradley was never guaranteed an immediate Pacquaio fight when he signed with Top Rank and that's abundantly clear. He wasn't first choice for June 9th and that is also abundantly clear.
Being put automatically on a fighter's undercard doesn't mean he was guranteed a fight with him in his next fight. It's an assumption with no basis other than your own speculation.
Whether or not you could care less about the semantics is irrelevant. It simply de-bunks your argument that he signed with Top Rank and was guranteed a Pacquaio fight after Casamayor. That wasn't the deal, and it wasn't the deal he took when he didn't fight Khan.
Yes, it is a duck to me. I struggle to see how that can be argued. The guy didn't fight someone because he didn't want to risk losing because it would ruin his chance at the P4P #1. Just because Pacquaio is a higher risk than Khan doesn't make it any different.
Ray Robinson refused fight Cocoa Kid yet he moved up to 175 to fight Joey Maxim down the line. It still doesn't change the fact he ****ed Cocoa Kid because other fighters he fought were far superior to him.
Bradley didn't duck Khan because he was afraid of him. He ducked him, like you said, because he didn't want to risk his chance to make lot's of money and fight one of the best fighters in sport. That's still a duck. And it's one I don't blame him for and evidently he made the right decision and it paid off.
The rest is just revising history.Comment
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Bradley planned it, took the steps and it happened perfectly. Don't take an unnecessary risk right before having a GREAT chance at a mega fight and payday against Manny Pacquiao... He took the perfect steps by signing with Top Rank, and the rest proves he did it right. Good for him.
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Ducking is a subjective term, a completely opinionated term. What is ducking to one person is not to another. When a fighter like Pacquiao jumps up to LW to fight the weakest title holder just to grab a title for the record books... he's ducking the better champions at the weight... Hell same with Roy for fighting Ruiz instead of Lewis.
A fighter not making a fight with another fighter is not automatically a duck, especially when you are aligning yourself for a mega fight against a better fighter than the said fighter you are perceived as ducking. If the Pacquiao fight didn't happen, and Bradley still didn't fight Khan, then that is a duck.... fortunately though, he did.
Thats how I see it, and thats how the cookie crumbles.Comment
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