whether it puts me in a win win situation, its still the truth. there have been numerous elite level fighters who have suffered injuries on the level of ortiz', but for the most part, most of them fought through it. u can name one or two who didnt, im sure, i never thought u couldnt. but that doesnt take away from the fact. its things like this that separate the elite from the very good.
Comments Thread For: Ortiz To Notice Golden Boy; Elects Lopez Rematch Option
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Your post made me realize something. I should be giving him a lot more credit for beating Ortiz. I was thinking Ortiz was probably distracted, underestimated Lopez, that Ortiz fought a ****** fight, etc. But beating Ortiz at 147 is a very impressive win for a Jnr Welterweight.Comment
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and who is to say that it was not going to get worse they still had three rounds left and lopez was turning it on. the bottom line is ortiz did the smart thing "live to fight another day" or get ruined for the rest of your careerNo, nothing like that. Abraham had a worse break and more serious surgery (22 screws and two plates for Abraham, 3 screws and one plate for "Vicious"). It had no effect on his career.
Many fighters have had broken jaws. I can't remember any of them having career problems afterward. You know what else I can't remember... any of them quitting. Not one.Comment
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Not all elite fighters have had their jaws broken so there really is no way to know whether all the greats would be willing to continue if that happened to them. We assume they would, but I don't know if there are enough examples to assume that everyone would do it. "elite" fighters have quit for much less than thatComment
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Much respect to Ortiz! Crazy he fought on as long as he did with those injuries. He'll take Lopez out in the rematch. Hope he fires that garbage trainer of his in the mean time.Comment
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there have been plenty of elite fighters who have had their jaws broken and almost everyone of them continued. and there have been those who have quit for less, like duran. but duran didnt make a habit out of doing it. rafa didnt make a habit out of doing it, ****, even fishnets didnt make a habit out of doing it.Not all elite fighters have had their jaws broken so there really is no way to know whether all the greats would be willing to continue if that happened to them. We assume they would, but I don't know if there are enough examples to assume that everyone would do it. "elite" fighters have quit for much less than thatComment
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It's not even about the jaw with them, it's just an excuse to hate on Ortiz. They hated him before the fight and are latching on to whatever they can get.
How do you know unless they each have a double fracture of the jaw and are swallowing blood?whether he should have continued or not, to me, he still proved hes not elite. put any of the top fighters in the sport in that same position and 10 times outta 10, most of them would have continued. its the truth. ortiz isnt that guy. whether he was justified or not, and i never said he wasnt, thats what separates the elite from the very good. so, no ortiz is still not a warrior. ortiz is ortiz. a very good fighter who lacks the mentality to be great. no matter how u spin it, thats still the case.
Racist much?Comment
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