Is Oscar De La Hoya underrated?

[Capaedia]

Oscar is difficult to rate. When you look at his qualities individually, he should've been a much better fighter. He was not a sum of his parts.

Well an old De La Hoya only lost by a SD, and do you recall how effective that jab was for that short period in the middle of the fight when Oscar inexplicably decided to use it and then stopped despite how effective it was? No way a young Oscar does that, and the jab would be stiffer and quicker.

Floyd would have a time, not sure who wins.

Inexplicably?

Floyd started countering him with a right hand every time he threw a jab. He didn't just suddenly stop throwing the jab. Floyd adjusted and took it away.

Then Oscar resorted to flurrying like he was trapped in a phonebox filled with bees. All the while Floyd was deflecting them and countering with good hard punches.

The fight was not close.

oh and i agree with the above, oscar sparks out both mayweather and pacquiao in his prime

Based on what? Oscar had trouble finding a Whitaker who is a worse fighter at 147 than Floyd. It wasn't a clear win, why is he going to do so much better against Floyd?

[BoxingGenius27]

Post-Oscar era? No one. Mayweather wouldn't get by Pea or that version of Mosley, maybe even not Quartey, and Manny, Manny would get stopped by a prime Oscar easily, enough said.

Off the top of my head:

Trinidad
Roided Mosley in his prime
Vargas
Chavez
Whitaker
Sturm
Hopkins
Pac
Mayweather
Quartey
I'm missing a few

The list goes on.

Leonard, Hearns, Mayweather, Pac, Obviously whitaker/Trinidad/Mosley and a few other greats would not go through his list of opponents without several L's; which Oscar actually has.

He's very underrated and in my eyes an ATG. If he cherry picks, who knows what his record could've been.

[Capaedia]

Off the top of my head:

Trinidad
Roided Mosley in his prime
Vargas
Chavez
Whitaker
Sturm
Hopkins
Pac
Mayweather
Quartey
I'm missing a few

The list goes on.

Leonard, Hearns, Mayweather, Pac, Obviously whitaker/Trinidad/Mosley and a few other greats would not go through his list of opponents without several L's; which Oscar actually has.

He's very underrated and in my eyes an ATG. If he cherry picks, who knows what his record could've been.

Who would Leonard and Hearns lose to?

[BoxingGenius27]

Who would Leonard and Hearns lose to?

Leonard would lose to Hopkins and possibly Floyd at 147. Heck, I would say a roided Pac from 09 could possibly squeeze in a win as well.

I think Hearns would lose to a prime Trinidad. Hearns would get caught by one of Tito's left hooks and that chin wouldn't hold up.

All this is my opinion of course.

[Capaedia]

Leonard would lose to Hopkins and possibly Floyd at 147. Heck, I would say a roided Pac from 09 could possibly squeeze in a win as well.

I think Hearns would lose to a prime Trinidad. Hearns would get caught by one of Tito's left hooks and that chin wouldn't hold up.

All this is my opinion of course.

I agree on Leonard and maybe Hearns losing to Hopkins. But I don't see Trinidad even troubling Hearns. In fact I think Hearns would outbox him much worse than DLH did.

I also think Leonard is much too big and strong for Mayweather, and simply better than Pacquiao. Especially at WW.

[BoxingGenius27]

I agree on Leonard and maybe Hearns losing to Hopkins. But I don't see Trinidad even troubling Hearns. In fact I think Hearns would outbox him much worse than DLH did.

I also think Leonard is much too big and strong for Mayweather, and simply better than Pacquiao. Especially at WW.

I think Oscar has one of the most underrated chins also. I know Oscar's chin held up to Tito's shots, but I'm not sure Hearns would.

[miron_lang]

most of his ranking from boxing writers are spot on.


He looks invincible early. Then the very disputed win againts Quartey made him look like human before Mosley defeated him.



At 130 to 140 his power is well above most fighter can handle. His prime fighting weight is 147 IMO.


He should be recognized for fighting Hopkins. Bhop totally carried him the whole fight. I felt Hopkins could knock him at any time if he wanted to.

[Capaedia]

I think Oscar has one of the most underrated chins also. I know Oscar's chin held up to Tito's shots, but I'm not sure Hearns would.

Oscar had a great chin, no doubt about that. Hearns' chin gets more flak than it deserves though, I think. He was only ever KO'd by Leonard (after Leonard realised he wasn't going to win on the cards and put all his heart into a knockout), Hagler, who was a very big puncher. Not to mention an ATG middleweight, and Barkley, who for all his faults, could definitely crack. Hell, Hearns' chin held up at Cruiserweight. He even beat a HOF light-heavyweight in Virgil Hill (I believe Hill is in the HOF? I don't know much about him)

No doubt Trinidad could KO him if he landed a great punch. But I don't think he would. He doesn't have enough assets to set it up, I don't think he'd touch Tommy much at all, don't forget he outboxed the two best boxers he faced (Benitez and Leonard). In fact I think Hearns is a horrible match up for him.

[hudas]

He demolished everybody significant during his prime, why would he be considered underrated? ngeh!

[EMACULATE]

I mean, the man fought virtutally everybody through out his damn career. Look at the list of hall of famers and great fighters he faced. Yeah he lost some fights, but who the hell would go through that list of fighters without a few losses? I feel he doesn't get enough credit today. Agree or disagree?


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There's no question Oscar is under-rated, but he's also the reason Mayweather, Pacquaio, Hopkins and others becames stars. When you beat Oscar who was the cross over star, you also gained his fans. You can quote me on this in the last twenty years there is no one with a better resume than Oscar. He wasn't always the most talented but he fought and though screwed in some fights he also got some gift decisions.