Is Oscar De La Hoya underrated?

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  • RIZO24
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    #21
    Oscar was great in his prime.. The only REAL losses in his resume were against Mosely (First fight), Sturn, Hopkins (Too small), Mayweather (split decision) and PAcquiao (weight drained). He beat Trinidad and was not given a decision he deserved against Mosely in their second fight.

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    • Roman Moreno
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      #22
      Everyone in this thread except for Mak and IronDan has to be fairly new to the sport. That's the only explanation for such comments.

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      • -MAKAVELLI-
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        #23
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        I don't think any version of Oscar beat's Pacquaio either.


        i think a prime oscar would have lost as well but it would have been closer with PAC's somewhat wreckless style, some opportunities would have been there for that vaunted left hook...style-wise, there's not much doubt in my mind that he still loses to Floyd

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          #24
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          I don't think any version of Oscar beat's Pacquaio either.
          Completely disagree about Pacquiao, a prime Oscar is a very bad match up for Pac especially at 147.

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          • -PBP-
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            #25
            You know the Whitaker fight isn't about who won or lost. I had Pea winning a very close fight but cant argue against anyone giving it to Oscar. The issue was the margins on the judges scorecards. That was a disgrace to the sport of boxing and blatant disrespect to the career of a hall of fame fighter.

            Oscar had some very favorable scores. It really ruined the suspense of some of his fights for me because it had people wondering if he could ever lose a close fight in Vegas. Your delusional if you disagree with that because that question was raised before the trinidad fight. And the thing about it is he knew this. After the Whitaker fight he was quoted saying something along tge lines about how he was the young exciting up and coming fighter and how that played a role in the scoring for that fight.

            It's not Oscar's fault but it does affect how I look back on his career. One judge gave him a victory over Floyd. The Felix Sturm scores were atrocious. A judge had him ahead in the Hopkins fight. I think that people had no sympathy for his close losses to Mosley and Tito because of the favorable scores he has always gotten.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by _original_
              Completely disagree about Pacquiao, a prime Oscar is a very bad match up for Pac especially at 147.
              Disagree.

              Left handed dominant orthodox fighters are always going to struggle with Pacquaio and the angles he uses.

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                #27
                oscar would decapitate pacquiao in his prime

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  You know the Whitaker fight isn't about who won or lost. I had Pea winning a very close fight but cant argue against anyone giving it to Oscar. The issue was the margins on the judges scorecards. That was a disgrace to the sport of boxing and blatant disrespect to the career of a hall of fame fighter.

                  Oscar had some very favorable scores. It really ruined the suspense of some of his fights for me because it had people wondering if he could ever lose a close fight in Vegas. Your delusional if you disagree with that because that question was raised before the trinidad fight. And the thing about it is he knew this. After the Whitaker fight he was quoted saying something along tge lines about how he was the young exciting up and coming fighter and how that played a role in the scoring for that fight.

                  It's not Oscar's fault but it does affect how I look back on his career. One judge gave him a victory over Floyd. The Felix Sturm scores were atrocious. A judge had him ahead in the Hopkins fight. I think that people had no sympathy for his close losses to Mosley and Tito because of the favorable scores he has always gotten.
                  That is certainly part of it, he got the benefit of the doubt more than he got screwed so it is hard to really feel bad about the times he did get jobbed.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Disagree.

                    Left handed dominant orthodox fighters are always going to struggle with Pacquaio and the angles he uses.
                    What are you basing this off of, the Miguel Cotto fight?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Roman Moreno
                      Everyone in this thread except for Mak and IronDan has to be fairly new to the sport. That's the only explanation for such comments.
                      Typical snobby comment from a pretentious d-bag such as yourself, at least you didn't come here and flat out lie about your boy Trinidad deserving that gift he got against Oskie.

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