I think Froch has surpassed Calzaghe especially after his KO win over Bute, Froch has fought the best out there while Calzaghe boxed bums for years and years
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joe calzaghe is The only one in history to become Undisputed super middleweight champion he has had 24 championship fights has 3 ATGs on his resume
Roy Jones Jr
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins
Beat 4 Undefeated Fighters
Mark Delaney 21-0
mikkel kessler 40-0 world champion
Mario Veit 30-0
jeff lacy 21-0 world champion
joe calzaghe beat 9 world champions
Chris Eubank, was a 2 weight champion and had 24 world tltle fights
Richie Woodhall was a 2 weight champion and had 6 world tltle fights
Roy Jones Jr was a 4 weight champion and had 25 world tltle fights
Charles Brewer had 7 world tltle fights
Bernard Hopkins, the best middleweight of all time he has 25 world tltle fights
Mikkel Kessler, has 11 world tltle fights SOON TO BE IBF CHAMPION
Robin Reid had 8 world tltle fights
Byron Mitchell had 8 world tltle fights
Jeff Lacy had 7 world tltle fights
if you add all these world champions title fight up it adds up to 121 world championship title fights
when has CARL FROCH beat someone with over 20 championship fights?......
calzaghe beat 3 guy with over 24 championship fights
NAME 1 ATG FROCH FOUGHT?........
WHO IS THE 1 OUT OF ONLY 3 BOXERS IN HISTORY TO BE UNDISPUTED AND UNDEFEATED WORLD CHAMPION?....
WHO IS THE 1 OUT OF THE 4 MEN IN HISTORY TO HAVE OVER 20 TITLE DEFENCES?......
WHO IS THE SECOND LONGEST-REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION IN HISTORY?.....
WHEN CARL FROCH RESUME MATCH THAT LET ME KNOW
FROCH FAN'S ARE IGNORANT THEY AIN'T THE SPARPEST KNIVES IN THE DRAWER
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Froch has the better level of competition on his resume. The only thing i would say in favour of Calzaghe is that the 168 division has had a bit of a rejuvenation in recent times and has a lot of top class fighters that all want to fight each other. Calzaghe didn't have the opportunity to participate in a Super Six tournament or anything like that the division was a bit dead when he was in his prime so his resume is always going to look padded in comparison.
I have no doubt in my mind that Calzaghe would be competitive in this era of Super Middleweights though. He might have had problems with the faster ones like Ward and Dirrell but no doubt he would beat fighters like Bute and Abraham. He's already beaten a better version of Kessler and around the time that it looked like he and Froch were going to fight i thought Calzaghe would beat Froch.
But yeah overall Froch already has a better resume. In terms of legacy, i think Froch isn't far off he just has to rematch and beat Kessler before we can say he was a greater fighter than Calzaghe.
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carl froch beat 1 SMW CHAMPION and beat 1 former smw champion
carl froch lost to 1 smw champion and lost too 1 former smw champion
Jermain Taylor
Jean Pascal
Andre Dirrell
Arthur Abraham
Glen Johnson are all BUM'S contenders at best they never won a title at 168 so how can they be class as top wins
people hype on about froch fighting away from home
taylor was shot
abraham was coming off a loss
johnson was 43 with 14 L L L L L L L L L L L L L L
KESSLER WAS COMING OFF A LOSS
CARL FROCH FOUGHT THE BEST BUT HE NEVER BEAT THEM......WARD/KESSLER
All froch has done is won joe calzaghe vacant title made two defence loss to mikkel kessler...won kessler vacant title made 2 defence and loss to andre ward then won a paper title that will soon be mikkel kessler'sLast edited by jermainerambo; 05-29-2012, 07:27 PM.
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Originally posted by jermainerambo View Postjoe calzaghe is The only one in history to become Undisputed super middleweight champion he has had 24 championship fights has 3 ATGs on his resume
Roy Jones Jr
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins
Beat 4 Undefeated Fighters
Mark Delaney 21-0
mikkel kessler 40-0 world champion
Mario Veit 30-0
jeff lacy 21-0 world champion
joe calzaghe beat 9 world champions
Chris Eubank, was a 2 weight champion and had 24 world tltle fights
Richie Woodhall was a 2 weight champion and had 6 world tltle fights
Roy Jones Jr was a 4 weight champion and had 25 world tltle fights
Charles Brewer had 7 world tltle fights
Bernard Hopkins, the best middleweight of all time he has 25 world tltle fights
Mikkel Kessler, has 11 world tltle fights SOON TO BE IBF CHAMPION
Robin Reid had 8 world tltle fights
Byron Mitchell had 8 world tltle fights
Jeff Lacy had 7 world tltle fights
if you add all these world champions title fight up it adds up to 121 world championship title fights
when has CARL FROCH beat someone with over 20 championship fights?......
calzaghe beat 3 guy with over 24 championship fights
NAME 1 ATG FROCH FOUGHT?........
WHO IS THE 1 OUT OF ONLY 3 BOXERS IN HISTORY TO BE UNDISPUTED AND UNDEFEATED WORLD CHAMPION?....
WHO IS THE 1 OUT OF THE 4 MEN IN HISTORY TO HAVE OVER 20 TITLE DEFENCES?......
WHO IS THE SECOND LONGEST-REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION IN HISTORY?.....
WHEN CARL FROCH RESUME MATCH THAT LET ME KNOW
FROCH FAN'S ARE IGNORANT THEY AIN'T THE SPARPEST KNIVES IN THE DRAWER
Calzaghe could have shut froch up and beaten him, but he chose not to. The way I see it froch has taken way more risks in the past two years than calzaghe has in his career, fighting sheep herders and alcoholic homeless guys in Wales.
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Froch has fought the tougher opposition, but only because they were around. I'm sorry but you don't unify a division by ducking people. Prime for prime Calzaghe beats Froch 120-108, A 37 year old Calzaghe against a prime Froch wins quite comfortably too, I'm sorry but Calzaghe was in a different league. The only fight Calzaghe would have struggled with was Ward, but I think he still beats him.
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Of course Froch has surpassed Calzaghe. He is a warrior that is willing to fight any and everybody. His resume already s**** all over Calzaghe's, and he is still adding names to it. Calzaghe has no legacy, and it's his own fault for it. His fans need to get over it. They are mad because nobody outside of the UK respects Calzaghe, but Froch is out making skeptics believers.
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Originally posted by street bully View PostSo eubank is an ATG in your eyes? Listen Calzaghe beat an old Eubanks who was on the downslide. Hopkins was 43 years old, and won the fight in my opinion, and Roy Jones is the guy who is getting knocked out by bums in Russia every other month now who had no business fighting Calzaghe or any top fighter at that point of his career. You should be either drug tested for your post or banned.
Calzaghe could have shut froch up and beaten him, but he chose not to. The way I see it froch has taken way more risks in the past two years than calzaghe has in his career, fighting sheep herders and alcoholic homeless guys in Wales.
Lucian Bute
Arthur Abraham
jermain taylor
Mikkel Kessler
calzaghe beat a 43 years old Hopkins who was the best at lhw and at 47 he still was the best a LHW
you don't win the wba. ibf wbo wbc and ring belts at smw an Lhw and reign for 11 years by fighting sheep herders and alcoholic homeless guy and not taking risks
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