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This.Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
I'm not a fan of Froch. But i cant see how Calzaghe had a better record.
His best win was against Kessler and a dodgy SD against an old man Hopkins.
Joe fan's talking about his unbeaten record need to know something about Boxing. Undefeated means virtually nothing.
The best boxers in history all had losses. It's not about the losses, it's about who you beat.
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joe calzaghe is The only one in history to become Undisputed super middleweight champion he has had 24 championship fights has 3 ATGs on his resumeOriginally posted by Abstraction View Post
Roy Jones Jr
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins
Beat 4 Undefeated Fighters
Mark Delaney 21-0
mikkel kessler 40-0 world champion
Mario Veit 30-0
jeff lacy 21-0 world champion
joe calzaghe beat 9 world champions
Chris Eubank, was a 2 weight champion and had 24 world tltle fights
Richie Woodhall was a 2 weight champion and had 6 world tltle fights
Roy Jones Jr was a 4 weight champion and had 25 world tltle fights
Charles Brewer had 7 world tltle fights
Bernard Hopkins, the best middleweight of all time he has 25 world tltle fights
Mikkel Kessler, has 11 world tltle fights SOON TO BE IBF CHAMPION
Robin Reid had 8 world tltle fights
Byron Mitchell had 8 world tltle fights
Jeff Lacy had 7 world tltle fights
if you add all these world champions title fight up it adds up to 121 world championship title fights
when has CARL FROCH beat someone with over 20 championship fights?......
calzaghe beat 3 guy with over 24 championship fights
NAME 1 ATG FROCH FOUGHT?........
WHO IS THE 1 OUT OF ONLY 3 BOXERS IN HISTORY TO BE UNDISPUTED AND UNDEFEATED WORLD CHAMPION?....
WHO IS THE 1 OUT OF THE 4 MEN IN HISTORY TO HAVE OVER 20 TITLE DEFENCES?......
WHO IS THE SECOND LONGEST-REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION IN HISTORY?.....
WHEN CARL FROCH RESUME MATCH THAT LET ME KNOW
FROCH FAN'S ARE IGNORANT THEY AIN'T THE SPARPEST KNIVES IN THE DRAWERComment
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Has Froch unified the division?
Has Froch got 21 title defences?
Has Froch become a lineal champion?
Has Froch become a two weight lineal champion?
Hmmmm
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Is Froch's resume almost as good as Calzaghe's?Originally posted by RichCCFC View PostHas Froch unified the division?
Has Froch got 21 title defences?
Has Froch become a lineal champion?
Has Froch become a two weight lineal champion?
Hmmmm
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agree, i think it could be better.Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
fighting bums in your hometown doesn't give you a good resume at all but fighting the best fight after fight doesComment
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nope.
calzaghe was the lineal champ at 168 and 175. that alone is much bigger accomplishment.
froch has a better resume at 168 though.Comment
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Calzaghe ducked Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins for years. It had nothing to do with luck.Originally posted by AssasinKing View Post
Joe could have fought both Jones and BHOP years ago when they both were still prime and winning.
Joe Calzaghe chose to wait until Jones both Jones and BHOP got old.
It had nothing to do with the division not being great.
The man was a coward and hid out in Europe fighting the same level of competition that Prince Naseem Hamed fought in Europe his entire career until he fought Lacy, and old Jones and an old BHOP.
Tell the truth.Comment
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Of course he has. Calzaghe didnt step up to the challenge more than 2 times. He just uses the triangle theory. Calzaghes achievment doesnt compare to Frochs.Comment
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Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
Care to back up those facts? Take a look at this instead fanboy
"A teleconference was set up in my office in New York for July 30th, 2002, and on the call was myself, Don King who was in the room, Frank Warren and Bernard Hopkins' lawyer, Arnold Joseph. Along with Arnold was a woman named Linda Carter, who was there on behalf of Bernard. We asked Arnold if Bernard wanted to fight Joe Calzaghe and we asked him how much money would he want if he did. The response we got was $3million and the fight would have to take place in the United States. After a little scratching of the head, we said 'Okay, done.' Frank Warren agreed on the spot, Don King agreed and we agreed so as far as we were concerned all parties were singing off the one hymm sheet. Arnold excused himself with Linda and I can only assume it was to call Bernard. Either that day or the next day, they came with a new demand: $6million, double the sum that had been agreed, the deal blew up.....he had then and still has no desire to fight Joe Calzaghe, that much is pretty clear.
Joe gets criticised sometimes for not having fought the big-name Americans, but in this case the fault has never rested with him."
- Jay Larkin, then Showtime TV Network's Senior Vice-President of Sports and Event Programming.
As for Jones Jr,
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http://********/QhSxpemf838?t=26m45s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=1qeXpJlLNzs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=1jVrFZDxZS0
6:45 in. "For 2 years Calzaghe has chased pound for pound number one Roy Jones, but to no avail".
Then look at Jones own comments
Former four-division champion Roy Jones Jr, speaking with The Sunday Times, responded to Joe Calzaghe's recent claim of chasing Jones for several years and being brushed aside. Calzaghe spoke with The Sunday Mirror and appeared to have some newfound hostility when Jones' name came up.
"I spent five or six years chasing Jones and he acted like he never even knew my name," said Calzaghe. "Suddenly, I beat Hopkins in Vegas and Jones wants to be my neighbor - it's ridiculous. If a fight with Jones made sense from a cash point of view, then it could happen, but he is notorious for asking for too much money."
Jones says that he viewed Calzaghe as a possible opponent several years ago, but at the time he saw no reason to travel to Wales to chase the fight. Now that Calzaghe is the bigger star, Jones is willing to make the fight anywhere.
“I saw Joe as a potential opponent a long time ago,” Jones said. “But I had my eyes on higher things, such as winning the heavyweight title, so it was nothing against Joe, I love everything about him. He’s a fun guy, an entertaining guy, a good person. We took some pictures together with his sons after the fight on Saturday and we’ve talked on the phone. But boxing is business. When I was the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world it wouldn’t have been smart for me to go and fight Joe.
”You don’t go to somebody else when you’re the best, they must come to you, so I wouldn’t take the risk, and why would I? Why would I meet that challenge when I’m already the best? Why would I go to your country and give you a chance to allow the powers that be to take a close decision and give it to you?"
Jones says a fight with Calzaghe is the best fight in boxing, even better than a possible rematch between Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather Jr, scheduled for September.
“But right now this is the best fight out there, better than the Oscar De La Hoya-Floyd Mayweather rematch because we all know what the outcome of that fight is going to be – another win for Floyd. You don’t know the outcome of this fight, however, so it’s a fight people are going to want to see. There’s suspense, and that’s what makes for a big fight," Jones says.
Joe wanted the big fights all along, he was avoided by prime Jones and prime Hopkins like the plague. They knew Joe could beat them and take the big money out of their pockets.Comment
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