Comments Thread For: Ariza: "Manny cant fight anyone not promoted by Bob"

[KnockUTheFukOut]

What offer, made to Floyd, do you consider ridiculous?

who the *** knows! YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW! I am just giving an example of some of the stuff he has done in the past, Arum has a history of making negotiations difficult when he doesn't want to match his fighter(s) up with an opponent that is not with Top Rank

Arum can offer one thing PUBLICLY but behind closed doors he might be offering something else, he can tell you publicly "WE AGREED TO TESTING" but nobody knows for sure if they fully agreed to Testing all the way up to the fight or with a 14 day cut off

Arum is not a honest man, lying is what he does for a living and it is how he built Top Rank, that is what promoters do

and another example of Bob Arum's BS, he was telling you for years "Mayweather Doesn't Want To Fight Cotto" but then Cotto comes out and say they never even pursued a fight with Mayweather while he was with Arum...but then the fight gets done as soon as Cotto leaves Arum, it is pretty obvious who is really keeping fights from happening

[Gino Ros]

Why is everyone afraid to see the numbers run?

Because they know that the numbers for Pac-JMM3 and Pac-Mosley are fake.

They know it.

They know that if Pac sold 1.4 Million plus with Marquez, that HBO would be waving those figures on a flagpole.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Remember when Arum said Floyd wanted Pac-Floyd at 154 ??

That guy has been full of shyt for decades.

[Gino Ros]

who the *** knows! YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW! I am just giving an example of some of the stuff he has done in the past, Arum has a history of making negotiations difficult when he doesn't want to match his fighter(s) up with an opponent that is not with Top Rank

Arum can offer one thing PUBLICLY but behind closed doors he might be offering something else, he can tell you publicly "WE AGREED TO TESTING" but nobody knows for sure if they fully agreed to Testing all the way up to the fight or with a 14 day cut off

Arum is not a honest man, lying is what he does for a living and it is how he built Top Rank, that is what promoters do

I will tell you:

Mayweather offered Pacquiao the following deal:

• 50/50 purse split
• 14 day testing cutoff
• 147 pounds
• A date that Pac wanted (March 13)

...and Pacquiao refused!!

W

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Thats not what happened. Come on at least be honest.

I never said pac is worth no ppv so stop making it up. Manny desrves no more than his share, which seems to be between 30-40% but running the numbers will show exactly the total.

Hating someone has nothing to do with it. He hated manny when he offered a great deal and the ****ty deal. Manny turned both down.

Nailed it bro...........................

[The Big Dunn]

you don't get tired arguing about this do you? be honest about it, what do you think shoud be the purse split for this fight in terms of percentage?

floyd probably 55-60% manny 40-45%. But nothing should happen until after manny/bradley fight.

I think the media did a lot to delegitimze the floyd/cotto fight while making the manny/bradley fight more competitive then it is. I mean both were 6-1 favorites.

I think manny/bradley does over 1 mil. Then you run the ppv's and live gates. Do the math, split and fight.

[MindBat]

Wow.

True or not, you wouldn't expect Ariza to come out and say this.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare

How so? People in Pac's camp have been contradicting each other since 2009.

No surprises here.

Just new revelations from the Pac Camp.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

"Yesterday I was lying, today Im telling the truth"---Arum

[brick wall]

floyd probably 55-60% manny 40-45%. But nothing should happen until after manny/bradley fight.

I think the media did a lot to delegitimze the floyd/cotto fight while making the manny/bradley fight more competitive then it is. I mean both were 6-1 favorites.

I think manny/bradley does over 1 mil. Then you run the ppv's and live gates. Do the math, split and fight.

55-45 you can make a case out of that. 60-40 is not fair...that means for every 1.5 million ppvs floyd makes, pac only makes 1 million. and of course you also need to consider the opponent and the undercards.

for example, if floyd-cotto made 1.5 million and pac-bradley can make 1 million...that doesn't mean a 60-40 split because cotto obviously commands a ppv market compared to bradley.

[The Big Dunn]

Because they know that the numbers for Pac-JMM3 and Pac-Mosley are fake.

They know it.

They know that if Pac sold 1.4 Million plus with Marquez, that HBO would be waving those figures on a flagpole.

This is why Bob had manny stop fighting the same guys floyd beat. Floyd outsold manny every time thus reducing manny's relative value to a floyd fight.

Bob was trying to sell manny beating people worse than floyd. WHile he was right, the buying public wasn't as interested in seeing Manny beat up someone floyd already out boxed by a wide margin.

Honestly, I think the JMM numbers aren't bad. But there is no way Manny/Shane on SHowtime ppv sold more than Manny/cotto or Manny/ODH on HBO ppv.