Comments Thread For: Ariza: "Manny cant fight anyone not promoted by Bob"

[Khalid X]

He changed his stance to 24 and 14 days but maybe you forgot that. I guess you have to label me because there is no impartial objective data you have to justify manny getting more than he deserves.

Bob can keep asking for more than his client is worth. That will always keep the fight from happening. Manny should get no more than he is worth.

So Manny is only worth 40 million flat fee with no PPV money, even though 5 outta his last 7 PPV's have hit over a million buys?

[The Big Dunn]

The only way Arum could be stopping the fight is if he starts making excuses about cuts and stadiums and what not. And even then, the fight is a no go REGARDLESS as long as Floyd stays on his current position which has nothing to do with Arum. Arum not accepting is the correct thing to do.

You mean as long as manny asks for more than he is worth, right? Or you mean until both change their stance?

At the end of the day, Floyd wants the numbers run and split that way. Manny wants either 50% or 45%. WHy is everyone afraid to see the numbers run?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Floyd's **** is so far up your ass that you're trying to argue that promoters haven't stopped fights from happening. Do you know anything about boxing
...at all?

Where did I argue this? Please show me where I argued this?

[The Big Dunn]

No one brought up the Oscar and Shane fights. I don't understand why you are Gino bring these up, when at no time did I list these as guys Floyd didn't face in their prime.

Also, are you saying Manny should have taken Floyd's deal of 40 million flat fee with no PPV?

WHen have I ever said manny should take that deal? When.

[viperz007]

He changed his stance to 24 and 14 days but maybe you forgot that. I guess you have to label me because there is no impartial objective data you have to justify manny getting more than he deserves.

Bob can keep asking for more than his client is worth. That will always keep the fight from happening. Manny should get no more than he is worth.

yeah then pac agreed to 24 then he goes to 14

pac agreed to 14 he goes to 0 day cut off

then pac agreed to 0 day floyd demands a new no 50/50 no ppv bulcrap

we all know that u dont have to repeat that topic again

come on so no ppv sales for pac is what pac's worth?
even i know u know thats bulcrap dude

if ur floyd and u offer that bulcrap to someone that u hate and hate u do u honestly believe it will make the fight happen if u wanted it?

[The Big Dunn]

So Manny is only worth 40 million flat fee with no PPV money, even though 5 outta his last 7 PPV's have hit over a million buys?

Dude you are a blatant d1ckrider

I said run the numbers. When did I ever say manny should take that deal. Stop being a *****!

[Gino Ros]

It's an easy choice picking Oscar over Margarito. Also, Arum dropped the ball with the Oscar fight, which is common knowledge, but Oscar isn't on the list of fighters I mentioned.

Also that isn't the only time the Margarito fight could have happened, but good job using the Oscar fight, one that was at the tail end of Floyd's Top Rank career, as an excuse.

Speaking of excuses, if Arum isn't Floyd's promoter, how does that impact Floyd's guarantee?

You guys have an excuse for everything when at the end of the day, Floyd never fought those guys and used petty excuses for not facing them in their prime.

WAIT: You are being unbelievably biased, and I won't bother presenting FACTS if you will simply overlook them.

Again. Floyd wanted higher guarantees than Arum was willing to pay. Floyd was CLEARLY money-motivated.

Arum was offering $7 million guarantee to face Miguel Cotto. Floyd just fought Miguel Cotto for a $32 million guarantee. And he paid Arum zilch.

YOU as a fan may not like that. But how is that a bad move by Floyd the boxer/businessman?

And don't tell me that Floyd was wrong for prioritizing the biggest money fighters, because I can paste about ten (um, thousands) articles from the past couple of years where Arum/roach/Pac/Koncz say that the reason they chose this opponent or that one is because they "brought in the most money" of the options. And copious posts of the midgets on here defending that.

Pac and May have done the SAME thing...only May has done it better. And that is what has you upset.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Ive been saying that for 3 years now. Its Bob Arum.

Look at how fast Cotto-Floyd got signed. For years NSB was saying Floyd is scared of Cotto, Margarito, etc.

Bullshyt.


Where are all those posters who always have sarcastic posts like "blame arum for everything"?

[brick wall]

Hey you ****** cocsucking *******, I said run the numbers. When did I ever say manny should take that deal. Stop being a *****!

you don't get tired arguing about this do you? be honest about it, what do you think shoud be the purse split for this fight in terms of percentage?

[The Big Dunn]

yeah then pac agreed to 24 then he goes to 14

pac agreed to 14 he goes to 0 day cut off

then pac agreed to 0 day floyd demands a new no 50/50 no ppv bulcrap

we all know that u dont have to repeat that topic again

come on so no ppv sales for pac is what pac's worth?
even i know u know thats bulcrap dude

if ur floyd and u offer that bulcrap to someone that u hate and hate u do u honestly believe it will make the fight happen if u wanted it?

Thats not what happened. Come on at least be honest.

I never said pac is worth no ppv so stop making it up. Manny desrves no more than his share, which seems to be between 30-40% but running the numbers will show exactly the total.

Hating someone has nothing to do with it. He hated manny when he offered a great deal and the ****ty deal. Manny turned both down.