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1 thing i have noticed bout Cotto fans and appreciate
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Any Floyd opponent will get picked apart, no matter who it is.
I mean the Corrales win is not good because Corrales had jail in his mind. And the Castillo rematch win does not count cause "Castillo beat him the first time". FFS Corrales is one of the best wins of any fighter in the 00 decade and it is picked apart regardless.
WTF would a Margarito win have done, be picked apart like the rest
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostMy point is that it made no difference to his resume. Being a lineal champ doesn't mean squat. Carlos Baldomir was lineal champ - does that mean he was a better opponent than Margarito? No. I point out that Mayweather was better at 140 because what I'm saying is that the difference between them at 147 was immaterial.
Bull****s for years? Explain. Because you haven't been able to.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostBut, you said "Mayweather could have been an Top 25 ATG if he wanted" which is obviously implying that he avoided fights that would enhance his legacy.
When asked what these fights are you give Hatton at 140
So I asked the question, how did he avoid this fight?
Are you now saying he didn't avoid these fights? So, is that not debunking your own theory
Yes, he was.
He did nothing better at 140 than he did at 147.
Only difference was WW's are bigger than Jr WW's. So when fighting a big WW like Collazo he didn't have his usual luxury.
Good thing Mayweather isn't a big WW.
Thus, why it really makes no difference where their fight was at. 140 or 147.
Who said Mayweather shouldn't have fought Margarito? Not me.
I'm laughing at the idea a win over him elevates his ATG status drastically
Stop putting words in your mouth?
Did you not just say "Mayweather is a lower tier ATG"?
Explain, what is that? Where is that ranking? There are 100+ ATG's. If he's in the lower...Explain where his ranking would be. Near the bottom, no?
Yet, in the very next sentance you said "A win over these fighters put him in the Top 25"
Again, it doesn't add up.
And no, it wouldn't shut up the naysayers. Mayweather has been "shutting up naysayers" for years. Every fight he has it's a case of "Now, he will shut up the naysayers"
I said there were fights and asked you to figure it out. Dazed said Margs, I added Sergio, no one else could seem to figure out anything so I added a Hatton win at 140 and Manny to that list.
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Originally posted by Walt Liquor View PostAll I have to say to this is that the bold, I said FLoyd should have SEEKED OUT fights to increase his status.
I said there were fights and asked you to figure it out. Dazed said Margs, I added Sergio, no one else could seem to figure out anything so I added a Hatton win at 140 and Manny to that list.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostI'm not discussing what he brought to the table. I'm not saying Floyd ducked him. What I'm saying is that Carlos Baldomir couldn't hold Margarito's jock strap. At all.
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Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood View PostAny Floyd opponent will get picked apart, no matter who it is.
I mean the Corrales win is not good because Corrales had jail in his mind. And the Castillo rematch win does not count cause "Castillo beat him the first time". FFS Corrales is one of the best wins of any fighter in the 00 decade and it is picked apart regardless.
WTF would a Margarito win have done, be picked apart like the rest
A Margarito win would have been phenominal, to this day even. Especially considering that Margarito is plaster made.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostManny Pacquaio like Sergio is also a fight that might happen in the future.
So now we have 2 active fighters that can still happen, Antonio Margarito and Hatton at 140.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostJust stepped in from taking my daughter to the park. This tread is still hot as hell bwoy!!
Anyway I noticed that Floyd is getting passes for taking the money route. Which in & of itself is fine. However, the problem with that is that it shouldn't be argued about how great he is when his resume could have been much much better.
A man shouldn't call himself the greatest if he fights the money fight & not the legacy fight. But to have his fans admit it & defend it & tear down anyone that can possibly beat him saying that they're not a money maker is flawed from a fans stand point IMO.
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