1 thing i have noticed bout Cotto fans and appreciate

[Bushbaby]

wrong, there is definitely a difference


take a poll who thinks hatton was a better fighter at 140 or 147

What hatton says in the paper is shi t. that's called selling the fight.

IMO Callazo proved Hatton had no business at 147.

[-Spinal-]

I completely disagree. Margarito in 2006 was one hell of a fighter.

You think in 06, Margarito would have stopped Baldomir?

[IronDanHamza]

wrong, there is definitely a difference


take a poll who thinks hatton was a better fighter at 140 or 147

What hatton says in the paper is shi t. that's called selling the fight.

People will say 147 because either they don't like Mayweather and it's their excuse to discredit the fight or they will base it off his fight with a big WW in Collazo.

The fact is, Hatton is no better in any area at 140 than he is at 147 and he's probably stronger at 147 than he was at 140 in all honesty.

As long as he isn't fighting a guy much bigger than him, he'd be successful.

What would the difference be in Hatton if he faced Mayweather at 140?

[Doctor_Tenma]

wrong, there is definitely a difference


take a poll who thinks hatton was a better fighter at 140 or 147

What hatton says in the paper is shi t. that's called selling the fight.

No, Hatton himself said his chances are better at 147 because he saw that Mayweather wasn't as fast or threw the same combinations he once did. He saw the Mayweather-Gatti fight live. Hatton still had the same speed, power, everything, the opposition at 47 at the time was simply stronger, that's it.

[Walt Liquor]

I think both can happen, yes.

Whether I do or don't doesn't chance the fact they can happen.

Which, of course makes your poor argument even worse than it is already.

so my argument that Floyd could have fought margs instead of baldo, hatton at 140 instead of 147, sergio at 160 and Manny back in '09-'10 and that would make him a top 25 atg is a poor argument and enhanced his status?

lets bet on floyd v manny and floyd v sergio.

I bet anything you want, floyd never fights sergio at 160.

i'll also bet that Floyd and Manny don't fight in 2012 and that IF it happens in 2013, it's nowhere near as good of a win as if floyd fought manny in 2009-10.

pac's star appears to be falling and floyd lost a big opportunity there.

[IronDanHamza]

IMO Callazo proved Hatton had no business at 147.

That fight proved Hatton isn't as effective when fighting much bigger guys than him.

People all jump to the conclusion that that performance was down to Hatton.

Where does Collazo get credit? HE is the reason Hatton looked like ****.

[The Big Dunn]

Which is why if Floyd fights Canelo & not Martinez, I have every right to call it a duck. But there is also 1 thing tthat Pacman proved. Superstars can sell fights by themselves. Also, can you name anyone who wouldn't pay to see Martinez-Floyd??

If we're being realistic here, Martinez- Floyd can potentially sell as much as any other fight, considering Martinez's stature in the sport.

STop equating percived "stature" with revenue generating ability. Its like ODH, you think the chicks and gay men buying his fights thought about his stature?

Yes, people would buy Martinez, floyd. Maybe 1.5 mil. But maybe 1.5 mil MEXICANS ALONE will buy Canelo-floyd. SO you need to be real about this.

If you are floyd, would you pay $10 mil to make $40 mil and or $10 mil to make $80 mil? I'm sure if Martinez put asses in seats this conversation doeasn't occur.

[Walt Liquor]

I can do that too, so you're saying floyd was after hatton at 140?

[Walt Liquor]

You think in 06, Margarito would have stopped Baldomir?

or beat him to a pulp, easily.

[The Big Dunn]

IMO Callazo proved Hatton had no business at 147.

Hatton didn't go to 147 to compete he went there to get paid to big money to fight floyd with the knowledge that if he won, he'd get a ODH fight.