Do you think that Cotto now is better than he WAS pre-Marg/Pac

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #51
    Originally posted by chibomber
    Well judging by the official poll

    Mayweather KO/TKO 25.96%
    Mayweather Decision 49.42%
    Cotto KO/TKO 16.31%
    Cotto Decision 8.32%

    No they are not giving him a good chance to beat him.

    http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/po...s&pollid=37148
    From what Ive read from the individual Cotto fans, they certainly are. Some of them are saying he'll probably lose but are giving him a good shot to win.

    Which to me, is delusional.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Check
      Some people feel an intelligent Cotto that is favoring the boxing part of the game is a better fighter, it's debatable. It Miguel was still the body puncher he used to be and was doing this style I might even agree with them. And just because they are giving him a chance to beat Floyd, doesn't make him better. It's a style thing. If Miguel can impose his strength on Floyd, like he did against Margarito he might have a shot. Miguels a proud warrior and won't lay down like Shane Mosley or Victor Ortiz. It's clearly going to be a fight and that certainly increases Miguels chances.
      He'll quite clearly lay down as he has done in his two biggest fights. He pretty much admitted he would quit again if the circumstances called for it in the Margarito Face Off. He's fighting for money now.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Earl-Lesnar
        It's an interesting question, certainly Cotto has sewn up a fair number of previous frailties, he has better movement, and tightened up his overall technique, however I still get the feeling that he could fall apart at any given moment, sure he has looked good against his recent opponents however I just feel that against the elite he will unravel.

        I also feel he was more confident, and more free flowing with his fighting before.

        opinions?
        I for one do not think he looked good against margarito, margarito just came at him with out his hands up and was a easy target.
        Dont let it fool you its easy to look good against a shot to pieces margarito

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          #54
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          The Rabbi actually started to land some clean right hands on Cotto before his knee buckled. Cotto did not look good in that fight imo. It was a mediocre performance.
          ...in the 5th round. Thats it.

          Everything else he did, was matched and surpassed by cotto. Plain and simple, he was outclassed. Even before his knee gave away.

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          • chibomber
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            #55
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            From what Ive read from the individual Cotto fans, they certainly are. Some of them are saying he'll probably lose but are giving him a good shot to win.

            Which to me, is delusional.
            Well its boxing anyone at any given night can win. Im his fan but I got Floyd by UD and of course individual cotto fans are going to say those things just like any other fighters fans are going to say the same thing. The numbers don't lie though like I showed you.

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              #56
              Originally posted by akScoundrel
              Can we end that ******ed b.s?

              Foreman went into the fight as a two legged undefeated champ, a man who many (probably including you) predicted to box circles around cotto. As it turns out, cotto boxed circles around foreman. It wasnt until the seventh round that foremans knee gave out. One could say it was from all the running/changing directions he had to do because for the first seven rounds cotto was taxing that ass. Once his knee gave out, cotto didnt struggle whatsoever to finish him. Cotto didnt struggle whatsoever in that fight.

              Yes mayorga is old, but is still a dangerous power puncher, a fight that presents its own dangers. Same with marg. In all three fights....combined....how many rounds had cotto lost?

              I picked Cotto to win against all three fights they should have been a walk in the walk in the park for him quick TKOs. He took to long to finish off Foreman once the leg gave way, Cotto v Foreman rematch.

              Mayorga lost power and his hand speed, he was more shot than Cotto.

              The Margarito rematch came to late, Cotto would have struggled to beat him of Pac never damaged that eye.

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                #57
                Originally posted by akScoundrel
                ...in the 5th round. Thats it.

                Everything else he did, was matched and surpassed by cotto. Plain and simple, he was outclassed. Even before his knee gave away.
                Well I'd expect that since the Rabbi isn't very good. But Cotto did not look great against a ****, handpicked opponent.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  He'll quite clearly lay down as he has done in his two biggest fights. He pretty much admitted he would quit again if the circumstances called for it in the Margarito Face Off. He's fighting for money now.
                  Yeah, he will lay down if he is getting battered like he was against Margarito and Pac. Do you honestly think Floyd is going to lay that kind of beating? It's doubtful simply because this fight is a boxer v boxer. This fight will have its moments but it certainly isn't going to be an all action fight. The fighters Mayweather outclasses are fighters that come forward aka the old Cotto. The new Cotto will take risks but he isn't gonna be stalking Mayweather down. It's going to be a fight that's fought at distance. It obviously favors Mayweather(hes the best pure boxer we've had in a longggg time) but like Mosley shown, Mayweather can be hurt if we're just strictly boxing.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Well I'd expect that since the Rabbi isn't very good. But Cotto did not look great against a ****, handpicked opponent.
                    A shutout on the cards isnt good?

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Ugh!
                      cotto fought exactly the same in the first fight, was he not backpeddling since round 1 the first time? where is this huge contrast in style?

                      the difference i'll tell you, was in the second fight the carcass of margarito didn't have the same speed of foot nor hand nor activity to pin cotto against the ropes

                      the difference, was solely, antonio

                      and on another point, i dont think cotto has regressed that much, his heart is still very much in it, he is visibly a bit slower though, atleast to me
                      Ugh, the second fight was at 154. You know the 1 where Cotto tied him up, pushed him back & used a lot of lateral movement.

                      Nothing like the 1st fight where he didn't hold, got blasted with uppercuts & sat on the middle rope the majority of the fight.

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