Do you think that Cotto now is better than he WAS pre-Marg/Pac

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Its not just about two losses.

Its about the physical and perhaps even more important, mental toll that those horrbile RAPINGS took on him.

They weren't just two losses.

I don't know where this misconception has came from but Cotto wasn't rapped in the Margarito fight. He lost, yes, and he was stopped but he wasn't outclassed by any means. Through 10 rounds that fight was even. People get stopped all the time and kayos can come from no where. If a fight was even through 10 rounds and all of sudden someone scores a kayo, it doesn't mean that fighter was ****d or outclassed.

The same can be said about the Pac fight. Yes, he lost that fight but until he got hit with a punch that changed the fight he was handling Pac nicely. One punch changed that whole fight but lucky for Miguel, Floyd doesn't have that sneaky power that Pac has. Miguel might lose but he's gonna put Floyd through hell.

[tredh]

Put Mosley in the ring with a one legged Rabbi, a shot Mayorga and a one eyed Margarito and he'll look awesome.

Hell Shane KOed both Mayorga and Margarito when they were closer to their primes.

Can't really argue against the bold. LLS

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cotto fought exactly the same in the first fight, was he not backpeddling since round 1 the first time? where is this huge contrast in style?

the difference i'll tell you, was in the second fight the carcass of margarito didn't have the same speed of foot nor hand nor activity to pin cotto against the ropes

the difference, was solely, antonio

That's not true at all. The difference with this fight was Cotto boxed him and denied all brawls with Margarito. He also bullied Margarito around and pushed him back throughout the fight. Cotto fought like the bigger man in the fight and boxed quite a bit better in the second fight. Cottos at 154 was stronger than Cotto was at 147, especially since Margarito was a HUGE 147 fighter.

[New England]

Its not just about two losses.

Its about the physical and perhaps even more important, mental toll that those horrbile RAPINGS took on him.

They weren't just two losses.

not to mention that it's become pretty damn evident that margarito isnt hitting like he was in the capetillo era.

he beat the trash out of cotto in '08. cotto couldnt take the punches and it led to him being completely unable to set his feet or drive margarito back. he couldnt take the damn punches.

margarito hit golden johnson like he had brass knuckles on.


and now margarito hits like a girl. the guy had loaded gloves when he fought cotto in '08. we can say that to a degree of near certainty

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I don't know where this misconception has came from but Cotto wasn't rapped in the Margarito fight. He lost, yes, and he was stopped but he wasn't outclassed by any means. Through 10 rounds that fight was even. People get stopped all the time and kayos can come from no where. If a fight was even through 10 rounds and all of sudden someone scores a kayo, it doesn't mean that fighter was ****d or outclassed.

The same can be said about the Pac fight. Yes, he lost that fight but until he got hit with a punch that changed the fight he was handling Pac nicely. One punch changed that whole fight but lucky for Miguel, Floyd doesn't have that sneaky power that Pac has. Miguel might lose but he's gonna put Floyd through hell.

The KO didn't come from nowhere. He was getting systematically broken down since the 2nd round. He hit Margarito back....duh cos Margarito will take 1000 head shots in every fight. He hit him going backwards most of the time anyway, didn't matter that he was winning rounds, he was getting ****D in the grand scheme of things.

He mentally quit in the Pacquiao fight

Two physical and mental rapings of the highest order.

[New England]

The KO didn't come from nowhere. He was getting systematically broken down since the 2nd round. He hit Margarito back....duh cos Margarito will take 1000 head shots in every fight. He hit him going backwards most of the time anyway, didn't matter that he was winning rounds, he was getting ****D in the grand scheme of things.

He mentally quit in the Pacquiao fight

Two physical and mental rapings of the highest order.

cotto tried to beat manny until the second knockdown. then he all but surrendered. he was badly hurt. manny was small enough for him to stay on his feet, but he took another savage beating.

cotto's dad died not long after. another horrid beating. they never should have sent him out for any round beyond the 8th or 9th.

[zab191]

All this talk Cotto is a more intelligent fighter since the raping from Pac is a joke, Cotto fought a bunch a bums a One legged Foreman which he struggled to finish off, Old Man Mayorga and a Washed Up Margarito who all are not too difficult to out smart. Fighting Floyd is different.

Cotto is finished.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

This reminds of Roy Jones beating Prince Bady Ajamu, some other young kid and then Tito Trinidad (who was even more shot than him like Margarito was just more shot than Cotto) before fighting Calzaghe.

Except no one was really saying "Hey Roy's back to his best!"

Cotto fans are among the most delusional in boxing.

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All this talk Cotto is a more intelligent fighter since the raping from Pac is a joke, Cotto fought a bunch a bums a One legged Foreman which he struggled to finish off, Old Man Mayorga and a Washed Up Margarito who all are not too difficult to out smart.

Cotto is finished.

Failed to finish off? He finished all 3 of those guys off and nearly won every single round against them.

[AlwaysOnTop]

I don't know where this misconception has came from but Cotto wasn't rapped in the Margarito fight. He lost, yes, and he was stopped but he wasn't outclassed by any means. Through 10 rounds that fight was even. People get stopped all the time and kayos can come from no where. If a fight was even through 10 rounds and all of sudden someone scores a kayo, it doesn't mean that fighter was ****d or outclassed.

The same can be said about the Pac fight. Yes, he lost that fight but until he got hit with a punch that changed the fight he was handling Pac nicely. One punch changed that whole fight but lucky for Miguel, Floyd doesn't have that sneaky power that Pac has. Miguel might lose but he's gonna put Floyd through hell.

I agree right to the last part..

Mosely handled Cotto's punches a lot better than he handled Floyds..

Shane walked Cotto down...but was walked down himself by Mayweather..