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  • IronDanHamza
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    #181
    Originally posted by 4CornersKid
    I've always said the Margarito fight as well. I don't think it hurts his legacy, but he could have fought him in 2005 or something, instead of Sharmba Mitchell for christ sake.
    He should have fought him instead of Zab Judah if anything.

    When Judah lost, Margarito was the logical fight.

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      #182
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Lazcano would have been a solid fight too. Shame that didn't happen aswell.

      I think he would have beaten Johnston. Do you?

      It's a real shame that didn't happen. Out of all the fights Mayweather "avoided" that's one of the only one's that he actually did avoid or find a way around.

      I wonder if Johnston had beaten Lazcano, if Mayweather would have fought him then. I guess that stay's in the mystery.
      Johnston would have been a wonderful fight. If Johnston were a bit taller and longer I'd have taken him, but he was very small. I'd pick Floyd and Mosley in that one at 135.

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        #183
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Lazcano would have been a solid fight too. Shame that didn't happen aswell.

        I think he would have beaten Johnston. Do you?

        It's a real shame that didn't happen. Out of all the fights Mayweather "avoided" that's one of the only one's that he actually did avoid or find a way around.

        I wonder if Johnston had beaten Lazcano, if Mayweather would have fought him then. I guess that stay's in the mystery.
        It's because Stevie was lil but bad, just playing around.

        Stevie's really underrated, one of the Top 2-3 LW's of his era no doubt, a 2x LW champ. I think Floyd would have fought him had he beaten Lazcano and I expected him to beat Lazcano. I was surprised when Lazcano stopped Stevie.

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          #184
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          He should have fought him instead of Zab Judah if anything.

          When Judah lost, Margarito was the logical fight.
          Not sure why Floyd held to his agreement to fight Judah, if I remember right. Judah was suppose to be a big fight, but Baldomir killed that. Judah was still a solid win, but didn't make a whole lot of sense after Baldomir beat him.

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            #185
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            You pretty much said what I said in my last post.

            Yeah, I agree.

            Casamayor's another one. I don't think Mayweather avoided him, per se.

            Firstly, the timing was a little wrong for his stay at 130.

            But, Casamayor's team insisted Mayweather turned down a good offer to fight him. Whilst, Mayweather team said the exact same thing.

            The negotiations were very brief so I was never really sure who the fault was on for that one. I think Mayweather wanted the fight though.

            And I personally think he didn't want to fight Margarito at that point because he simply didn't want to risk the Oscar fight. Knowing it would take him to super stardom, what he worked his whole life for.

            That's how I always saw it.

            You could see how tense was Mayweather was in the Oscar fight. His life depended on that fight. It's possibly the least relaxed I've seen him in the ring.
            Kinda like Bradley vs. Khan?????? I don't think Tim's afraid to fight Khan, but I think he knew he had a shot to fight Pacquiao if he signed with Top Rank.

            The sad thing is that Floyd was almost robbed in the Oscar fight.......

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              #186
              Originally posted by 4CornersKid
              Not sure why Floyd held to his agreement to fight Judah, if I remember right. Judah was suppose to be a big fight, but Baldomir killed that. Judah was still a solid win, but didn't make a whole lot of sense after Baldomir beat him.
              Yeah, the Zab fight was already inked though. I have no problem with it, at least he fought both guys- A very weird scenario nonetheless

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                #187
                Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                Not sure why Floyd held to his agreement to fight Judah, if I remember right. Judah was suppose to be a big fight, but Baldomir killed that. Judah was still a solid win, but didn't make a whole lot of sense after Baldomir beat him.
                One of those things.

                Him and Mayweather had a verbal agreement that they would fight after Judah has his tune up with Baldomir. At no point did anyone expect Judah to lose that fight.

                When he lost, Mayweather could easily have just said **** Judah. I don't need you. He didn't have to honor their agreement. There was no contracts or anything signed. Just a simple verbal agreement.

                Floyd went ahead with it. And I understand why he did it. I understand why he honoured it. And, It's a solid win IMO.

                But, the best fight available at that point was Margarito and everyone knew it. He should have taken it, it was the best fight available.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by turbotime
                  Yeah, the Zab fight was already inked though. I have no problem with it, at least he fought both guys- A very weird scenario nonetheless
                  It wasn't inked.

                  There were no contracts signed that Mayweather and Judah was going to happen after Judah-Baldomir.

                  Nothing but verball agreement and a handshake.

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                    #189
                    Prime Floyd takes this. 118-110 type scores

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                      Kinda like Bradley vs. Khan?????? I don't think Tim's afraid to fight Khan, but I think he knew he had a shot to fight Pacquiao if he signed with Top Rank.

                      The sad thing is that Floyd was almost robbed in the Oscar fight.......
                      The Margarito situation? Yeah, pretty similar situation.

                      I don't think Bradley is afraid of Khan. Like you, I think he knows Khan is a threat and he didn't want to risk the Pacquaio fight.

                      Hopefully that fight can still happen somewhere down the line. Both are still young.

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