Prime 147 Shane Vs Prime 147 Floyd

[IronDanHamza]

I agree I was surprised by this. If they were so washed up they wouldn't have won as much as they did later on, especially Leija.

I'm going to go ahead and presume this is a sick joke?

Because you can't be serious.

[IronDanHamza]

Duran beat a lot of bums at lightweight too considering he is the GOAT at 135.

He also beat HOF'ers at Lightweight. Multiple times.

[turbotime]

Don't troll like that. Not funny.

Aside from Lampkin (never really good), Buchanan and Dejesus there wasn't much. Jussaying.

I like Pea's resume better.

[Bushbaby]

[QUOTE=IronDanHamza;12026844]

Oh, Jesus.

You are really comparing Jesse James Leija and John John Molina in 1998 and to Oscar in 2007 and Mosley in 2010? Good Lord.

Both Leija and especially Molina were absolutely irrelevant at that time. You do know that, right?

You do know that Leija was stopped by a ancient well passed prime Azumah Nelson 2 years prior, Yes? and a fight before that was stopped by Oscar in 2 rounds?

Molina hadn't won a single relevant fight in YEARS when he fought Shane. His last relevant fight was getting beaten handily by Oscar in 1995.

Molina wasn't in the Top 10 and Leija was re entred into the Top 10 for beating a 40 year old Azumah Nelson.

Mosley was the ****ing Lineal Champion at 147. Top 3 P4P worldwide. And you are comparing him to Leija and Molina in 1998? Jesus Christ. Seriously.

Oscar was in the Top 5 at Jr Mw. Actually had a decent win in recent years.

Again, Molina wasn't even ranked and Leija was newly ranked. Both, washed up completely.

You're genuinely beyond clueless.

Oscar was washed up & Mosley was shot to hell & back when Floyd beat them. You can no longer defend it by your own damn logic homey.

[IronDanHamza]

I almost left my seat when I read his post. The high & mighty is going to sit their & crap on Mosley's accomplishment, but say Oscar & Mosley were washed up when Floyd fought them & he jumps to defend, wow.

So you're saying that Shane's wins over Leija and Molina compare to Mayweather's wins over Oscar and Mosley?

Because if you are, you're a bigger moron that I thought you were.

Molina wasn't in the Top 10, hadn't won a legit fight in years.

Leija's only legit fight in years prior to being stopped in 6 rounds and under consecutively 2 years prior was a 40 year old Azumah Nelson.

Where are you lost?

[4Corners]

[QUOTE=Bushbaby;12026864]

Oscar was washed up & Mosley was shot to hell & back when Floyd beat them. You can no longer defend it by your own damn logic homey.

The comparison is still awful. Molina and Leija hadn't done anything in years and NO ONE was calling for Shane to fight them.

Oscar was a Top 5 SWW and people actually wanted to see Mayweather-De La Hoya at 154 and you can't knock Floyd for taking the fight that made him a mega star. And Shane had just TKO'd Margarito, was the #1 WW, and was Top 10 P4P after stopping Margarito. Everybody and their brother was saying "Floyd needs to fight Mosley, or just retire. If he beats Shane, he gets full credit for that". Seriously, do we need to bump that thread back from Late 2009/Early 2010 where people were screaming for Floyd to fight Mosley???

It's a bad comparison.

[IronDanHamza]

[QUOTE=Bushbaby;12026864]

Oscar was washed up & Mosley was shot to hell & back when Floyd beat them. You can no longer defend it by your own damn logic homey.

They were passed their prime but considered to be Top 5 in their divisions.

They were both title holders.

Mosley was #1 WW and #3 P4P.


Molina was unranked and hadn't won a legit fight in years and Leija had just re-entered from being unranked.

You don't see the huge difference there?

Are you blind or just ******?

[Roman Moreno]

Duran beat a lot of bums at lightweight too considering he is the GOAT at 135.

He beat a lot of good fighters too, some HOF'ers, some borderline HOF'ers. Mosley and Moorer comparison is a much closer than Duran with either of those guys comparison.

And, the longevity dominance of Duran...It was damn near a decade of dominance in that weight is what makes his consideration of being the GOAT at that weight. But, others like B. Leonard, Joe Gans, and like IronDan would point out Carlos Ortiz has just as good of a case if not better of being the GOAT at 135. Even the likes of Whitaker and Armstrong are not too shabby.

Anyways, Duran longevity dominance and wins over Buchanan, Lampkin, Ishimatsu, Viruet, Fernandez, DeJesus, are the reasons why the consideration is made.

The achievement and accomplishments are in now comparable to the likes of Mosley at Moorer at 135 and 175. And, that's taking everything into consideration.

[IronDanHamza]

[QUOTE=4CornersKid;12026878]

The comparison is still awful. Molina and Leija hadn't done anything in years and NO ONE was calling for Shane to fight them.

Oscar was a Top 5 SWW and people actually wanted to see Mayweather-De La Hoya at 154 and you can't knock Floyd for taking the fight that made him a mega star. And Shane had just TKO'd Margarito, was the #1 WW, and was Top 10 P4P after stopping Margarito. Everybody and their brother was saying "Floyd needs to fight Mosley, or just retire. If he beats Shane, he gets full credit for that". Seriously, do we need to bump that thread back from Late 2009/Early 2010 where people were screaming for Floyd to fight Mosley???

It's a bad comparison.

It's beyond that.

It's plain ******ity.

It's damn near ******ation.

[turbotime]

He beat a lot of good fighters too, some HOF'ers, some borderline HOF'ers. Mosley and Moorer comparison is a much closer than Duran with either of those guys comparison.

And, the longevity dominance of Duran...It was damn near a decade of dominance in that weight is what makes his consideration of being the GOAT at that weight. But, others like B. Leonard, Joe Gans, and like IronDan would point out Carlos Ortiz has just as good of a case if not better of being the GOAT at 135. Even the likes of Whitaker and Armstrong are not too shabby.

Anyways, Duran longevity dominance and wins over Buchanan, Lampkin, Ishimatsu, Viruet, Fernandez, DeJesus, are the reasons why the consideration is made.

The achievement and accomplishments are in now comparable to the likes of Mosley at Moorer at 135 and 175. And, that's taking everything into consideration.

Of course longevity matters. I'm not dis*****g he is a ATG lightweight, I'm just saying, he beat a lot of bums at that weight over that period, especially when everyone considers him the best.