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  • turbotime
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    #111
    Originally posted by Bushbaby
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Why?

    The one's Oscar fought are better, absolutely.

    The irrelelvant, washed up ones Shane fought were about as good, if not worse.


    Wow, we're finally coming full circle with this, you & I. The bold. I bring up that fact about the Oscar & Shane that Floyd fought & you hate. The Shane Floyd fought was relevant because of the Margarito fight. But it is a fact to anyone with eyes that see that he was washed up a ****.

    Just like those fighters were relevant for Mosley at the time he fought them. Were they washed up? Maybe. But they were relevant. I'm almost stunned by this post. Coming from such high & mightyness. I'm tempted to sig this quote from you. I really am.

    Oscar & Mosley were washed up as **** when Floyd fought them. By your logic, can we then assume that giving him the credit you do for those victories is a little tiny bit hypocritical maybe??
    I agree I was surprised by this. If they were so washed up they wouldn't have won as much as they did later on, especially Leija.

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    • Roman Moreno
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      #112
      Shane at 135 reminds me to a lesser extent of Michael Moorer at 175. People love to overrate both fighters in those 2 weight-classes. Just because of how they look and how pretty their record seemed on paper.

      Mosley IBF LW title holder 32-0(30ko's)

      Moorer WBO LHW title holder 22-0(22ko's)

      Meh, at least Mosley had a Philip Holiday in his resume.

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      • turbotime
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        #113
        Originally posted by Roman Moreno
        Shane at 135 reminds me to a lesser extent of Michael Moorer at 175. People love to overrate both fighters in those 2 weight-classes. Just because of how they look and how pretty their record seemed on paper.

        Mosley IBF LW title holder 32-0(30ko's)

        Moorer WBO LHW title holder 22-0(22ko's)

        Meh, at least Mosley had a Philip Holiday in his resume.
        Duran beat a lot of bums at lightweight too considering he is the GOAT at 135.

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        • 4Corners
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          #114
          Originally posted by turbotime
          Fck Sosa. 4corners is my boy but I think he was hyping Sosa for Floyd because he was "robbed" in the Spad fight (he wasn't).

          Anywho, far too much has been read into this for what is a H2H thread, and not a resume thread.
          I wasn't hyping Sosa, I was just saying it wasn't THAT bad because he should have had Spad's title.

          I wasn't a good win for Floyd, but neither was Leija or Molina at that point.

          And still, Castillo alone puts Floyd's 135 resume over Shane's.

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          • Cardinal Buck
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            #115
            Shane never ever beats Floyd. De La Hoya would have a better chance.

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            • 4Corners
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              #116
              [QUOTE=Bushbaby;12026795]
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Why?

              The one's Oscar fought are better, absolutely.

              The irrelelvant, washed up ones Shane fought were about as good, if not worse.[/QUOTE]

              Wow, we're finally coming full circle with this, you & I. The bold. I bring up that fact about the Oscar & Shane that Floyd fought & you hate. The Shane Floyd fought was relevant because of the Margarito fight. But it is a fact to anyone with eyes that see that he was washed up a ****.

              Just like those fighters were relevant for Mosley at the time he fought them. Were they washed up? Maybe. But they were relevant. I'm almost stunned by this post. Coming from such high & mightyness. I'm tempted to sig this quote from you. I really am.

              Oscar & Mosley were washed up as **** when Floyd fought them. By your logic, can we then assume that giving him the credit you do for those victories is a little tiny bit hypocritical maybe??
              The difference is that people actually wanted to see Mayweather-De La Hoya and it was a big payday for Floyd. And at least Oscar had a title, though he was still past it. And people were saying Floyd should fight Mosley, because Shane had just TKO'd Margarito, everyone was saying Floyd should fight Mosley.

              And Oscar was a Top 5 SWW at the time, and Shane was the #1 ranked WW, and Top 10 P4P. It's a bad comparison.

              No one was calling for Shane to fight Leija or Molina at that point......
              Last edited by 4Corners; 04-21-2012, 12:24 PM.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #117
                [QUOTE=Bushbaby;12026795]
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                .[/QUOT[/B]

                Wow, we're finally coming full circle with this, you & I. The bold. I bring up that fact about the Oscar & Shane that Floyd fought & you hate. The Shane Floyd fought was relevant because of the Margarito fight. But it is a fact to anyone with eyes that see that he was washed up a ****.

                Just like those fighters were relevant for Mosley at the time he fought them. Were they washed up? Maybe. But they were relevant. I'm almost stunned by this post. Coming from such high & mightyness. I'm tempted to sig this quote from you. I really am.

                Oscar & Mosley were washed up as **** when Floyd fought them. By your logic, can we then assume that giving him the credit you do for those victories is a little tiny bit hypocritical maybe??
                Oh, Jesus.

                You are really comparing Jesse James Leija and John John Molina in 1998 and to Oscar in 2007 and Mosley in 2010? Good Lord.

                Both Leija and especially Molina were absolutely irrelevant at that time. You do know that, right?

                You do know that Leija was stopped by a ancient well passed prime Azumah Nelson 2 years prior, Yes? and a fight before that was stopped by Oscar in 2 rounds?

                Molina hadn't won a single relevant fight in YEARS when he fought Shane. His last relevant fight was getting beaten handily by Oscar in 1995.

                Molina wasn't in the Top 10 and Leija was re entred into the Top 10 for beating a 40 year old Azumah Nelson.

                Mosley was the ****ing Lineal Champion at 147. Top 3 P4P worldwide. And you are comparing him to Leija and Molina in 1998? Jesus Christ. Seriously.

                Oscar was in the Top 5 at Jr Mw. Actually had a decent win in recent years.

                Again, Molina wasn't even ranked and Leija was newly ranked. Both, washed up completely.

                You're genuinely beyond clueless.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Roman Moreno
                  Shane at 135 reminds me to a lesser extent of Michael Moorer at 175. People love to overrate both fighters in those 2 weight-classes. Just because of how they look and how pretty their record seemed on paper.

                  Mosley IBF LW title holder 32-0(30ko's)

                  Moorer WBO LHW title holder 22-0(22ko's)

                  Meh, at least Mosley had a Philip Holiday in his resume.
                  Haven't you heard?

                  Leija and Molina in 98 are the same as Mayweather's wins over Oscar and Mosley.

                  According to Bushbaby they were both relevant in 1998.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by turbotime
                    Duran beat a lot of bums at lightweight too considering he is the GOAT at 135.
                    Don't troll like that. Not funny.

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by turbotime
                      I agree I was surprised by this. If they were so washed up they wouldn't have won as much as they did later on, especially Leija.
                      I almost left my seat when I read his post. The high & mighty is going to sit their & crap on Mosley's accomplishment, but say Oscar & Mosley were washed up when Floyd fought them & he jumps to defend, wow.

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