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  • #51
    I think most people have become used to seeing Floyd dominate opponents, but it's not as if every one of Floyd's fights have been dominant performances. He's had trouble with a good amount of fighters in his career. Since his fight with De La Hoya, it's really hard to look at the stock of guys he's fought since and say each guy is better or would beat Cotto. Of course styles make fights, but let's simply take a look.

    Would Cotto NOT beat any of the fighters Floyd's beaten since Oscar? He already beat a younger and more active version of Mosley, and I'll leave everyone to judge fights w/ JMM, Hatton, and Ortiz and Welterweight, be my guest.

    I definitely can understand Floyd being the favorite in this fight, it's not something I think should be disputed. But to say Cotto has no shot and or will not be any challenge whatsoever to Floyd I think is a bit of blasphemy. Think about it, do people really think Cotto IS NOT Floyd's best opponent since De La Hoya (or maybe even better)?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by liraj View Post
      I wonder if Mayweather is thinking about his prison sentence.
      That's a great question. I'm wondering this also , I mean it has to be in the back of his mind that he will spend 3 months locked away I'm a jail sell.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by the_kid_08 View Post
        Pacmans career defining moments are his wins over all time greats Barrera, Morales, Marquez when they were in their prime. Floyd beat (on split decision) an old de la hoya, an old shot to **** moseley and a chump in Baldomir he ducked a prime Margarito a prime Cotto and now he's ducking Pacman he'll never be rated as highly as Leonard or Hearns cos he's got no balls
        Cotto just admitted Arum never mentioned a Mayweather fight to him and that Floyd was never in his plans..

        Tony was nobody to duck..he was content hiding out in WBO land fighting the likes of Sebastian Lujuan and the dreaded Hercules Keyvelos..

        Floyd was after Oscar...a much better fighter than Margarito has ever been.

        Oscar had a TITLE when Floyd fought him and was still knocking guys out.

        What did Oscar have when Manny fought him??

        Nothing

        Mosley had a TITLE when Floyd fought him

        What did he have when Ms Pacman fought him??

        Nothing

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        • #54
          Originally posted by the_kid_08 View Post
          Pacmans career defining moments are his wins over all time greats Barrera, Morales, Marquez when they were in their prime. Floyd beat (on split decision) an old de la hoya, an old shot to **** moseley and a chump in Baldomir he ducked a prime Margarito a prime Cotto and now he's ducking Pacman he'll never be rated as highly as Leonard or Hearns cos he's got no balls
          These fights were 10 years ago! What have u done for me lately! At least Floyd fights guys coming off good wins or guys with belts! Mosley had just tko Marg, but he fought him anyway! Clotty was just coming off a loss to Cotto, and he still got a fight with Pac! Cotto just got the dog **** beat out of him by Marg and dint have a trainer for Pac, not to mention all these fights were at catch weights! So once again, lets be real!

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          • #55
            Theres a reason why floyd retired instead of fighting Cotto in his prime 6+ years ago, he was waiting for Cotto to get shopworn aka KTFO by Marg and Pac

            In a fair fight with a ref that takes points away for throwing elbows and shoving off with forearms to the neck, and a neutral venue (not floyds backyard), than Cotto wins this fight EASILY.

            A prime Cotto would've Hattoned floyd within 5 rounds.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by tuts View Post
              funny part thats not what he said! you would think this boxing sight would get an interpreter to read the spanish papers, what he said was he and mayweather have alot of respect for each other but their fist will do the talking on may 5th.
              First time I post... but long time reader of this great site. Yes, bad translation.


              -------------ORIGINAL-------------
              Entiendo que él sabe a lo que se enfrenta el próximo cinco de mayo. Él no sabe, pero tiene idea de quién es Miguel Cotto. Va a descubrir quién es Miguel Cotto el próximo cinco de mayo.

              Entiendo que el respeto ha sido bueno. Ha dejado ver que tenemos un ser humano en Mayweather, no esa imagen estereotípica que estamos acostumbrados a ver. Ha habido mucho respeto y los puños hablarán el cinco de mayo.

              -------------A BETTER TRANSLATION-------------
              I understand that he knows what he faces (a tought challenge) next May 5. He does not know, but have an idea who is Miguel Cotto. He will discover who is Miguel Cotto next May 5.

              I understand the respect (from Mayweather) has been good. It shows we have a human being in Mayweather, not the stereotypical image (trash talker) we're used to seeing. There have been a lot of respect and fists will talk on May 5.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by RL_GMA View Post
                I think most people have become used to seeing Floyd dominate opponents, but it's not as if every one of Floyd's fights have been dominant performances. He's had trouble with a good amount of fighters in his career. Since his fight with De La Hoya, it's really hard to look at the stock of guys he's fought since and say each guy is better or would beat Cotto. Of course styles make fights, but let's simply take a look.

                Would Cotto NOT beat any of the fighters Floyd's beaten since Oscar? He already beat a younger and more active version of Mosley, and I'll leave everyone to judge fights w/ JMM, Hatton, and Ortiz and Welterweight, be my guest.

                I definitely can understand Floyd being the favorite in this fight, it's not something I think should be disputed. But to say Cotto has no shot and or will not be any challenge whatsoever to Floyd I think is a bit of blasphemy. Think about it, do people really think Cotto IS NOT Floyd's best opponent since De La Hoya (or maybe even better)?
                Cotto is nowhere near the fighter Oscar was at 154..

                You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise..

                Shane Mosley had Cotto running.....but he couldn't walk down Floyd..

                He walked thru everything Cotto had..but he couldn't walk thru Mayweather's shots.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                  Theres a reason why floyd retired instead of fighting Cotto in his prime 6+ years ago, he was waiting for Cotto to get shopworn aka KTFO by Marg and Pac

                  In a fair fight with a ref that takes points away for throwing elbows and shoving off with forearms to the neck, and a neutral venue (not floyds backyard), than Cotto wins this fight EASILY.

                  A prime Cotto would've Hattoned floyd within 5 rounds.
                  Wrong...as usual....

                  Cotto just admitted Floyd was never in his plans and that Arum never mentioned a Mayweather fight to him.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by AlwaysOnTop View Post
                    Cotto just admitted Arum never mentioned a Mayweather fight to him and that Floyd was never in his plans..

                    Tony was nobody to duck..he was content hiding out in WBO land fighting the likes of Sebastian Lujuan and the dreaded Hercules Keyvelos..

                    Floyd was after Oscar...a much better fighter than Margarito has ever been.

                    Oscar had a TITLE when Floyd fought him and was still knocking guys out.

                    What did Oscar have when Manny fought him??

                    Nothing

                    Mosley had a TITLE when Floyd fought him

                    What did he have when Ms Pacman fought him??

                    Nothing
                    Hbo asked floyd after the Hatton fight if he would fight Cotto and Floyd said he was gonna retire from boxing before boxing retires him. That meant he was scared of Cotto sticking him in an early grave this fight should have happened in 08 when both were at their peak but Floyd ran into hiding. I agree Floyd would beat Pacman which is why i dont understand why he's clearly ducking him every time Floyd talks about Pacman he just contrdicts himself all the time because he cant admit he's scared to fight him

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by valentino23 View Post
                      These fights were 10 years ago! What have u done for me lately! At least Floyd fights guys coming off good wins or guys with belts! Mosley had just tko Marg, but he fought him anyway! Clotty was just coming off a loss to Cotto, and he still got a fight with Pac! Cotto just got the dog **** beat out of him by Marg and dint have a trainer for Pac, not to mention all these fights were at catch weights! So once again, lets be real!
                      That's subjective though, because at the same time people ridicule the ABC structure of Boxing anyway with everyone and their mother having a belt today (I was IBF champ last week). It's the same argument as Floyd fighting Zab after he lost to Baldomir, but says "Well...hes the IBF champ". It seems as if that rule is ok if it's Mayweather, but other fighters are ridiculed. To me, saying Floyd beats guys coming off good wins is subjective considering the actual fights / fighters he's facing or that his opponents have faced.

                      This isn't also to put Floyd down either because I think he's a great fighter regardless, but...

                      JMM's win over Juan Diaz was the great win to fight Mayweather?

                      Hatton's win over an older Castillo was a great win to fight Mayweather?

                      Shane Mosley not fighting for 16 months after beating Margarito gets him a Mayweather fight? (Probably the best win out of the bunch though).

                      Victor Ortiz...



                      Again, Floyd has fought tough opponents in his career, but since Oscar and since he made it to the big stage it's been very lack luster.
                      Last edited by RL_GMA; 04-07-2012, 10:21 AM.

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