Comments Thread For: Cotto on Mayweather: We're Ready To Shock The World!

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • GRUSTLER
    Undisputed champion
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Dec 2008
    • 14118
    • 444
    • 115
    • 20,934

    #91
    Originally posted by hillbilly
    What's your basis for this? Granted i think cotto is faded, but oscar hadn't been setting the world on fire before the mayweather fight or after it for that matter. In the almost 4 years before that fight, he loked good once--against mayorga--not exactly anything to write home about. Felix sturm beat oscar pretty easily (and not surprisingly lost the decision). Bernard destroyed him at 156. In fact, i thought both sturm and bernard looked better against oscar than floyd. After the fight, oscar looked awful against forbes at 150. And, oscar was about as noncompetitive against pacquiao as you could imagine.

    Cotto has been on the decline since mosley. Mosley had been on the decline since way before then. People were saying he should retire before he fought margarito, after he struggled mightily against mayorga.
    Cotto takes too many big shots. He doesn't have a defensive strategy and never has. He has relied on his power for the majority of his career. Once his punch got taken away he was easy pickings. Oscar was not like he used to but he was still bigger and stronger than Floyd and Cotto. Floyd had trouble at times with the size and that's why Floyd fought a very technical fight. Cotto could have never fought that Oscar at 154 like that. No way. Floyd didn't make it easy for Oscar to land cleanly with his power shots but Cotto would have ate them. That's just my opinion. Margarito should have been an easy win for Cotto but Cotto went in with his balls out trying to land big shots with no game plan or able to adjust to the pressure. One big shot from Oscar would have ended the fight but again, this never happened so this is just my opinion.

    Comment

    • ADP02
      Champ
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Apr 2010
      • 13617
      • 415
      • 1
      • 26,360

      #92
      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
      oh i know u and ur not the type that im referring to in my post. i also think its a legit fight, its hard to argue otherwise, not the fight i wanted, but of course im watching.
      Legit fight? As in Cotto has a very good chance to win?

      You need to ask:
      What chance do you give Cotto of defeating Floyd?

      Who has Cotto beat lately that gives you that feeling that Cotto will have a very good chance of winning?

      That version of the one-eyed Margarito, the one-legged Foreman and the all bark no bite Mayorga wins are not close to Floyd's level of competition.

      Cotto lost decisively to a better but perhaps cheating Margarito, lost to Manny and almost lost to Clottey.


      I'm really hoping for a good fight and that what Cotto's camp says is true but objectively speaking, the odds are presently in favor of Floyd, big time.
      Last edited by ADP02; 04-07-2012, 01:31 PM.

      Comment

      • KING MEAT
        Dorian's Protege
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Apr 2010
        • 14902
        • 844
        • 279
        • 185,196

        #93
        here we go. i wanna see what floyd has to say about this.

        Comment

        • GRUSTLER
          Undisputed champion
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Dec 2008
          • 14118
          • 444
          • 115
          • 20,934

          #94
          Originally posted by The Surgeon
          Could Oscar have??? Margarito is a no talent cheater but the man brings the pressure ALL NIGHT LONG and he dont stop coming

          I thought Cotto did an excellent job with him, dominated the fight and bust him up in the process. Against what is essentially his nightmare style too. Cotto's weakness is pressure (he fights well under pressure IMO but its the weaker part of his game), Floyd Mayweather May bring pressure or he may box on the back foot we will have to wait and see but his style is not nearly as much of a problem for Cotto as Margarito's was. Im not saying Floyd wont win, what im saying is if he does win its because he is the better fighter and not because he's a bad style match up for Cotto...
          The Oscar at 154 who fought Floyd, would have taken Margarito's head off. Margarito was/is such a limited fighter. He could not even compete with a guy his size in Daniel Santos at 154 and 147.

          Comment

          • RL_GMA
            Undisputed Champion
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Jan 2008
            • 10271
            • 507
            • 103
            • 26,636

            #95
            Originally posted by valentino23
            The same should go for Pac then, cause his resume to Floyd is worse! Is it not?
            How did Pacquiao become involved? LOL if criticism is brought upon Floyd, is the cool thing now to say "Oh well look at Pacquiao!!!" Is that an insinuation that Floyd hasn't been fighting world beaters either?

            Comment

            • 120
              Lords of BoxingScene
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • May 2008
              • 6264
              • 416
              • 799
              • 13,757

              #96
              Originally posted by hougigo
              I was skeptical at first, but i've gotten more and more faith in his trainer over time. I'm more interested in him than Cotto at this point.
              IF! Cotto manages to win this fight, Diaz' status will go to legendary. He will have a ton of boxers looking for his services

              Comment

              • ChiTown2Diego
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jun 2009
                • 1571
                • 52
                • 33
                • 7,800

                #97
                Fan of Cotto's, but yes it would be a huge world shocker if he at his current past-prime, war-ridden condition beats Floyd. The only way Cotto beats Floyd is if Floyd gets a severe fight halting gash from a headbutt that is mistakenly thought to be the result of a cotto punch.

                Comment

                • UTEP
                  Banned
                  Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 12078
                  • 620
                  • 599
                  • 27,204

                  #98
                  Shane Mosley was caught by surprise when he fought Cotto and for the first 7 or 8 rounds Cotto walked Shane into power shots consistently. Yes, Miguel did back off and used a survive mentality to win a close fight, but, that was a 3 years younger version of Mosley that Cotto dealt with. Floyd's version of Shane was coming off 16 month layoff in the ring and at 39 I'm sure Shane wasn't exactly fresh.
                  "Shane couldn't walk down Floyd" is true but he did have Mayweather on ***** street for a moment.
                  GREAT POINT.

                  Comment

                  • Mr. Fantastic
                    Banned
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • May 2008
                    • 19036
                    • 527
                    • 1,328
                    • 20,027

                    #99
                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                    The Oscar at 154 who fought Floyd, would have taken Margarito's head off. Margarito was/is such a limited fighter. He could not even compete with a guy his size in Daniel Santos at 154 and 147.
                    Your comment just shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. You probably went to boxrec for the info. Most people that saw the fight outside of PR nuthuggers think Margarito put it on Santos.

                    Comment

                    • AlwaysOnTop
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 1230
                      • 33
                      • 0
                      • 1,335

                      #100
                      Originally posted by liraj
                      Shane Mosley was caught by surprise when he fought Cotto and for the first 7 or 8 rounds Cotto walked Shane into power shots consistently. Yes, Miguel did back off and used a survive mentality to win a close fight, but, that was a 3 years younger version of Mosley that Cotto dealt with. Floyd's version of Shane was coming off 16 month layoff in the ring and at 39 I'm sure Shane wasn't exactly fresh.
                      "Shane couldn't walk down Floyd" is true but he did have Mayweather on ***** street for a moment.
                      GREAT POINT.
                      Floyd's version of Shane had a Title...the title he took from Cotto's papi..

                      What did Shane have when Cotto fought him??

                      NOTHING..


                      Shane is used to long layoffs....Oscar made him wait for ages..

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP