Is Pacquiao the great P4P King of the modern era?

[Weebler I]

So you believe the Marquez that schooled Pacquiao again last year would beat Mayweather? Or even win a round?

I'm merely relaying JM Marquez's own views on his preparation for that fight for the Flomos.

I think JMM would probably do a little better in a rematch as he's an intelligent fighter but the truth is he doesn't belong at the higher weight. Yeah he beat Pacquiao as he has him figured out but I can see him struggling against other natural WW and JWWs, even some of the more average ones.

[Lords]

Again it's not my point, it's Juan Manuel Marquez's. He went into detail about how his preparation was affected for FMJ and how he got his training completely wrong for the step up (two divisions wasn't it?).

He also explained how he'd changed things in preparation for the Pacquiao fight, don't believe me then go watch it but I know you won't because you don't want to hear the truth

You mention Cotto, maybe 145lbs did affect Cotto, but Manny Pacquiao stopped him and beats him at 140lbs, 147lbs and 154lbs that much is clear. He beats Mayweather at all those weights too, that's why ya boy won't take the fight for love nor money.

Manny beats Cotto at any weight but yet doesn't want to fight him at his best weight..
Manny got his azz beat by a 38year old but yea he still stops Floyd at any weight..

[Boxingtech718v2]

I'm merely relaying JM Marquez's own views on his preparation for that fight for the Flomos.

I think JMM would probably do a little better in a rematch as he's an intelligent fighter but the truth is he doesn't belong at the higher weight. Yeah he beat Pacquiao as he has him figured out but I can see him struggling against other natural WW and JWWs, even some of the more average ones.

So why doesn't JMM rematch Floyd then as a prideful kind of guy?
I mean he can fight Pac ten times and get robbed all ten times and whine about it. Or he can rematch Floyd and try to better a miserable performance.
Floyd didn't just beat him he punked him and schooled the technical mastermind all night long. That wasn't weight that was all skills.
The fact that JMM feels like he can never beat Mayweather speaks volumes to me.
If he felt like he could win he would be trying to rematch the worse embarrassment of his career.
But anyway let me get out of here I don't like to hang out in these pac/floyd threads too much.

[Best in Boxing]

yeah, if a shot and exhausted Shane Mosley can buckle Floyd, just imagine what Pacquiao would do to him. Floyd knows too, that's why he won't get in the ring with him.

i don't know why all you dummys are thinking pac will just KTFO floyd once he lands a punch... where is this coming from? i responded to some idiot making this same sort of claim on another thread. and never got a response ... here ...


So Mosley KO'd Vargas, Mayorga, Margarito, and just about everyone in his 135 lbs days.... obviously showing that he has some pop in his punches.... he lands a clean punch on floyd and floyd BUCKLES, doesn't go down, BUT HE BUCKLES him. So that means that floyd can't take a punch???

ok, let me know if you don't get it.... mosley hits many people clean, they go down. he hits floyd clean, he gets wobbled, but stays up. clears his head and dominates.... that, to me would seem like the guy can take a punch. or are you actually dumb and you just can't comprehend that? i does seem like that's actually a possibility though.

Now to Pac... this one punch KO artist that you talk about.... did he knockout Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Marquez, Morales, Clottey, or De La Hoya??? It was the accumulation of punches that did damage.. and that was only on Margarito, Cotto, and Oscar.

Even the smaller guy in Marquez took his shots and kept coming.

Of his recent fights, he KO'd Hatton. Now is that saying much? Not really! Floyd stopped Hatton... remember that check hook that sent him into the ring post?? didn't have much force behind it.

Then after his Floyd fight, Hatton fought Juan Lazcano... do you remember that?? or do you only watch fights with pacquiao in them?
Well... check this out. Hatton is such a great boxer and hard to hit, that after he fought Juan Lazcano, his face ended up looking like this ....





Now does that look like someone who's able to avoid punches???? exactly... so my point is that the only person in his last 7 fights that he actually KO'd with one punch was Hatton... so that really ain't saying much.

So where does this logic that you've come up with that if Pac hits floyd with a single punch then he's gonna KO him instantly??? B/c i really don't understand.....

Care to enlighten? how bout you provide some facts not just biased a** pac-**** sucking logic...

And if I remember correctly, Pac's the one that actually been KO'd... not once but twice!

-cheers

[Best in Boxing]

Worst your BI TCH idol couldnt beat the same lightweight without weight cheating his ass and forced to wear extra 12 lbs fat suit . lmao

[Pacquiao'd]

and anoter p a c t a r d e d thread backfires on the p a c t a r d s

[Best in Boxing]

RJJ.... nuff said.

[Chups]

Huh? I love Pac but Roy and Whitaker are definitely greater.

How many ATG and HOF did Whitaker and Roy beat? What are their other achievements that is above Pacquiao?

[IronDanHamza]

How many ATG and HOF did Whitaker and Roy beat? What are their other achievements that is above Pacquiao?

On paper, Roy Jones beat 3 ATG's - Hopkins, Toney, McCallum and an argubale HOF'er - Virgil Hill

And Whitaker beat 2 ATG's - Azumah Nelson and Chavez.

Both are above Pacquaio on the ATG list IMO.

[Chups]

On paper, Roy Jones beat 3 ATG's - Hopkins, Toney, McCallum and an argubale HOF'er - Virgil Hill

And Whitaker beat 2 ATG's - Azumah Nelson and Chavez.

Both are above Pacquaio on the ATG list IMO.

MacCallum is no ATG. Hopkins is indeed a great ATG...probably above RJJ when everything has settled down in like 50 years. Toney is a HOF not an ATG.

Azumah is borderline ATG and it's a draw with JCC (yeah I know he won).


Pacquiao ATG opponents defeated ----> Morales, Barrera HOF-----> Mosley, DLH. Borderline HOF-----> JMM, (Hatton?), Cotto.

If Virgil Hill can get to HOF, so can Oscar Larios.