Maskaev Getting Screwed!!

[masterdirector]

The sanctioning bodies need to do this in all weight classes. Make the people who actually should be the contenders at the #1 spot so that we can get real fights instead of bull**** fights.

WBC shouldn't have had Maskaev or Sam ranked in the top 10 anyhow. So they ****ed up. At least they got it right by putting Toney at #1 now. Now put Mayweather and Mosley at #1 at different belts in the Welterweight division so Judah can beat them both.

[THE REAL NINJA]

The sanctioning bodies need to do this in all weight classes. Make the people who actually should be the contenders at the #1 spot so that we can get real fights instead of bull**** fights.

WBC shouldn't have had Maskaev or Sam ranked in the top 10 anyhow. So they ****ed up. At least they got it right by putting Toney at #1 now. Now put Mayweather and Mosley at #1 at different belts in the Welterweight division so Judah can beat them both.

if zab ever beats mosley and mayweather i will give my points away for the next 3 years

[!!Captain]

It will.

You keep talking like because you don't like that, it doesn't make it true.

For the 1st time in a long time, we can agree on who the top 5 or 6 fighters are.

If they fight eachoter (which makes the most sense) the winner is 'the' champion.

Because you don't think that person that wins will be worthy doesn't change the fact it's the most logical course of action right now.

The Heavyweight divison needs a unified champion.

Allowing more undeserving ****ty fighters into the mix does NOTHING positive. It only wastes more time.

The current top 6 need to fight eachother until one fighter unifies.

Any other course of action HURTS the division.

Since we are going in circles repaeating the same thing to each other, here is the summary of the debate:

Common agreement:
1. HW division is ****.
2. We have 6 people who are ranked on the top

Bozo's opinion:
Unification will produce the linear champion

My opinion:
Unification will produce another paper champion. HW will not have "THE" champion until young blood will clean up the division.

No further arguments will change our opinions IMO.

By the way, I already said it in another thread just now, but I don't believe that Ruiz will participate in the unification tournament after Dec 17th.

[Bozo_no no]

Since we are going in circles repaeating the same thing to each other, here is the summary of the debate:

Common agreement:
1. HW division is ****.
2. We have 6 people who are ranked on the top

Bozo's opinion:
Unification will produce the linear champion

My opinion:
Unification will produce another paper champion. HW will not have "THE" champion until young blood will clean up the division.

No further arguments will change our opinions IMO.

By the way, I already said it in another thread just now, but I don't believe that Ruiz will participate in the unification tournament after Dec 17th.

Your inability to accept that the guy who proves himself the best of a ****ty group, is still the best, and would be the liniar champion,

is what the problem is here.

Wheather you like it or not, whoever proves himself to be the best of the top 6, is the best at the moment.

I could care less that you don't like that.

The fact remains, the division has been in disaray since Lewis retired. It NEEDS a unifed champion.

Letting schmucks like Maskaev delay the division another year is HURTING things, not helping.

You are wrong. Period.

[!!Captain]

Your inability to accept that the guy who proves himself the best of a ****ty group, is still the best, and would be the liniar champion,

is what the problem is here.

Wheather you like it or not, whoever proves himself to be the best of the top 6, is the best at the moment.

I could care less that you don't like that.

The fact remains, the division has been in disaray since Lewis retired. It NEEDS a unifed champion.

Letting schmucks like Maskaev delay the division another year is HURTING things, not helping.

You are wrong. Period.

Bozo, you keep repeating the same thing over and over and over again. Come on, come up with a new argument or something. I did not mention Maskaev in my last 20 posts yet you keep arguing with me about him. I did not say he should fight Rahman instead of Toney, yet you keep saying I am wrong about something I did not argue for in the the first place.
And yes, I could care less about the "BEST OF THE WORST" champion of yours. Unless Toney will beat the top 5 HW or Wlad will heal his mental weakness and beat Brewster and Rahman without going down in every other round.

[Bozo_no no]

Bozo, you keep repeating the same thing over and over and over again. Come on, come up with a new argument or something. I did not mention Maskaev in my last 20 posts yet you keep arguing with me about him. I did not say he should fight Rahman instead of Toney, yet you keep saying I am wrong about something I did not argue for in the the first place.
And yes, I could care less about the "BEST OF THE WORST" champion of yours. Unless Toney will beat the top 5 HW or Wlad will heal his mental weakness and beat Brewster and Rahman without going down in every other round.

Then what ARE you trying to say?

If this isn't about Maskaev, your only point is that you don't see any point in anything happening.

There's no logic in that.

I keep repeating the same thing, because you're not making any kind of point.

The only thing that matters right now is narrowing down a group of 5 or 6 fighters until one guy is deserving of the #1 spot.

It's what's been needed for years now, and it seems it's more likely to happen now than it has in years.

If you don't agree that's the best course of action, what do you suggest should happen?

[TheFairPole]

I don't see how anyone can include Rahman in the top 6 best heavyweights in the world even though he has a title because Maskaev will ko him withing 5 rounds. So the way I see it is Maskaev is just as good of a pick as Rahman for the tourney!

[badblood]

Then what ARE you trying to say?

If this isn't about Maskaev, your only point is that you don't see any point in anything happening.

There's no logic in that.

I keep repeating the same thing, because you're not making any kind of point.

The only thing that matters right now is narrowing down a group of 5 or 6 fighters until one guy is deserving of the #1 spot.

It's what's been needed for years now, and it seems it's more likely to happen now than it has in years.

If you don't agree that's the best course of action, what do you suggest should happen?

I suggest the WBC to own up to their promises.

[Bozo_no no]

I suggest the WBC to own up to their promises.

I already told you, what you think isn't relevent. You're not concearned with the big picture, and are thinking exclusivly of Maskaev and how you want to see him fight.

[THE REAL NINJA]

I already told you, what you think isn't relevent. You're not concearned with the big picture, and are thinking exclusivly of Maskaev and how you want to see him fight.

why not just let mask fight the winner and be done with it ? he would still get his title shot and has the same chance to beat both guys