Maskaev Getting Screwed!!

[badblood]

It's unbelievable you can go this long without it sinking in.

There are FOUR differnet corrupt bogus major ranking organizations.

If some uninforemed ignorant fans cried about every instance of them not making informed and just rankings within there own rules, NOTHING would EVER get accomplished.

The bottom line is that Maskeav has NO BUSINESS being ranked anywehre near the top of the division.

The fact that he's not getting a title shot is a GOOD THING for the fans and the integtrity of the division.

Look bro, the WBC sanctioned a fight in Germany as an eliminator and paired JC Gomez and Oliver McCall, so I watched it and said ok now what? Then the WBC santctioned another fight against #1 vs #2 in Germany and declared it the eliminator for the WBC title, so I watched and said damn a rematch, this should be cool. Now what?? The WBC votes Maskaev out and votes Toney in, without Toney having to fight anybody in any kind of eliminator like Gomez and Maskaev did?? How is this **** fair?? I want to know how the WBC advertises something but doesnt produce it and get's away with it clean?? Like the thread say's, Maskaev getting screwed.

[Bozo_no no]

Bozo, make up your mind. We need a real champion. HW should go through the same thing as the LHW went through a little while ago. Remember when Tarver and Johnson decided to fight each other and forget about the belts? That was one hell of a gesture, IMO.

You're not getting it at all.

Tarver and Johnson both had credibiltiy.

No one in the Heavyweight division has that in the same way at the moment.

All we have is the guys that currently hold titles.

You don't like them, and have expressed that.

That doesn't take away from the fact that they've all (with the exception of Rahman) held them and made defences.

What you're ultimatly suggesting is that there should be a crap shoot of 10 - 15 guys who are able to fight for the unified title.

News flash: the division is ****.

For the first time since Lewis retired we can all agree who the top 6 fighters are.

They are the title holders, Toney and Wlad.

These are they guys that should be fighting eachother until 1 guy is "THE" Champion.

To suggest we sit around a few more years while guys like Maskaev and Ray Austin get their chance is bull ****, and a waste of time.

You are not looking at the big picture.

What you're suggesting will result in more years going by with nothing getting resolved.

[Bozo_no no]

Look bro, the WBC sanctioned a fight in Germany as an eliminator and paired JC Gomez and Oliver McCall, so I watched it and said ok now what? Then the WBC santctioned another fight against #1 vs #2 in Germany and declared it the eliminator for the WBC title, so I watched and said damn a rematch, this should be cool. Now what?? The WBC votes Maskaev out and votes Toney in, without Toney having to fight anybody in any kind of eliminator like Gomez and Maskaev did?? How is this **** fair?? I want to know how the WBC advertises something but doesnt produce it and get's away with it clean?? Like the thread say's, Maskaev getting screwed.

For the 10th time: WHO CARES.

All that matters at Heavyweight right now is things getting LESS ****ty.

Maskaev in the picture makes it MORE ****ty.

FORGET about the WBC and what they said .

Are you Maskev's agent?

I could care less if he got screwed, or not paid a cent in his last fight.

He's a NON FACTOR right now.

All that matters at heavyweight is UNIFICATION, and an undisputed champion being crowned.

Maskaev should have nothing to do with that.

Let it go, it doesn't matter.

Look at the BIG picture.

[!!Captain]

These are they guys that should be fighting eachother until 1 guy is "THE" Champion.

To suggest we sit around a few more years while guys like Maskaev and Ray Austin get their chance is bull ****, and a waste of time.

You are not looking at the big picture.

What you're suggesting will result in more years going by with nothing getting resolved.

When did I suggest that? All I'm saying is that even after top 6 guys (agree with your top 6, btw) fight each other until 1 guy is "THE" champion, he will not be "THE" champion. I think it is you who is not looking at the big picture.

[badblood]

For the 10th time: WHO CARES.

All that matters at Heavyweight right now is things getting LESS ****ty.

Maskaev in the picture makes it MORE ****ty.

FORGET about the WBC and what they said .

Are you Maskev's agent?

I could care less if he got screwed, or not paid a cent in his last fight.

He's a NON FACTOR right now.

All that matters at heavyweight is UNIFICATION, and an undisputed champion being crowned.

Maskaev should have nothing to do with that.

Let it go, it doesn't matter.

Look at the BIG picture.

I just want the WBC to own up to what they advertised that's all. They promised me Rahman vs Maskaev 2. Now I have to settle for something else.

[Bozo_no no]

When did I suggest that? All I'm saying is that even after top 6 guys (agree with your top 6, btw) fight each other until 1 guy is "THE" champion, he will not be "THE" champion. I think it is you who is not looking at the big picture.

No, it's you with your lack of understanding of that the "linage" is, and how it will be restored.

Right now, it can be restored with 6 (sub par) guys fighting eachother.

That alone could take a year plus.

You're suggesting it should be added to, which will do nothing but take more time.

The big picture is the top 6 guys now which you and I and almost everyone agress on (and that has NOT been the case in years)are in a position to narrow it down in a year or so.

Nothing you can say changes the fact that a guy like Maskaev is undeserving of being in that picture, or that any good will come of adding him in it.

The only thing that should be happening now is the top fighters facing eachother until 1 guy unifies.

[Bozo_no no]

I just want the WBC to own up to what they advertised that's all. They promised me Rahman vs Maskaev 2. Now I have to settle for something else.

It was clear within the first two pages of this thread that you're a Maskaev fan and that your main concern is seeing him in the picture.

That's a step backwards for the division.

[!!Captain]

You're suggesting it should be added to, which will do nothing but take more time.

Can you quote me saying that?



I am not trying to prove to you that Maskaev will benefit the division, I am trying to prove that unification of current title holders will not give us "THE" champion.

[badblood]

It was clear within the first two pages of this thread that you're a Maskaev fan and that your main concern is seeing him in the picture.

That's a step backwards for the division.

I'm a fight fan bro, I'm not a hater or a hugger. My favorit division is the heavyweight division. I watched 2 WBC sanctioned fights, and their giving me something else.

[Bozo_no no]

Can you quote me saying that?



I am not trying to prove to you that Maskaev will benefit the division, I am trying to prove that unification of current title holders will not give us "THE" champion.

It will.

You keep talking like because you don't like that, it doesn't make it true.

For the 1st time in a long time, we can agree on who the top 5 or 6 fighters are.

If they fight eachoter (which makes the most sense) the winner is 'the' champion.

Because you don't think that person that wins will be worthy doesn't change the fact it's the most logical course of action right now.

The Heavyweight divison needs a unified champion.

Allowing more undeserving ****ty fighters into the mix does NOTHING positive. It only wastes more time.

The current top 6 need to fight eachother until one fighter unifies.

Any other course of action HURTS the division.