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    #41
    Originally posted by gquezvas
    dude you just pissed because Kirkland did nothing
    He knocked him down and was going to stop him despite the holding. Illegally holding was Molinas only chance and even then he couldn't win because his stamina isn't on par with Kirklands.

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    • Fistic
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      #42
      Originally posted by ИATAS206
      it depends totally on the ref and the circumstances. There are lots of fights where a fighter is deducted points for excessive holding. One that pops into mind is berto vs collazo.
      Watching the fight I was thinking of how similar Molina and Collazo are in terms of being overlooked/underated Latino/American contenders.

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      • gquezvas
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        #43
        Originally posted by WarMaidana
        The guy is pathetic, i hate holding and clinching i hate BHOP, Ward, and what Alexander did against Maidana but this was a disgrace. My buddy came over to watch the gfight we expected a war and this ****** was clinching the whole fight and ruined it. Anyone who praises that style and way of winning is only doing it cause they like the fighter doing it. He should have been deducted atleast 2 points
        you fans are pathetic. If you like Molina or not Kirkland was exposed. He has nothing. Molina simply outsmarted him. You liking his style or not doesn't change the fact that Kirkland did nothing for over 8 rounds. So lie to yourself all you want because if Kirkland fights Canelo a guy who fights. Kirkland will find himself knockout in less then 4.
        It amazes me that the same fans b!tching and complaining about Molina will give praise to other boring fighters like Mayweather, Winky and BHOP. While they are more refined it's only holding when you have a crappy record and it's "being intelligent in the ring" when you have a winning record.
        In the end, Kirkland did not impress at all. The sign of a great fighter is not letting the other guy dictate the pace or fight. Kirkland had 2 hands and did nothing with them. Excusing it because of Molina's smothering style is just straight lying to yourself.
        I've also heard people say Kirkland should fight Martinez or Canelo. You serious? Not in the same class at all. Kirkland should fight Williams to find out where he really is. Molina should rematch Lara and end that controversy once and for all. If they both win then get that rematch.
        Last edited by gquezvas; 03-25-2012, 04:29 PM. Reason: misspellings and incomplete

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        • 4Corners
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          #44
          Most boxing fans are prisoner of the moment.

          When Kirkland was KO'd by Ishida, it was that Kirkland was a hype job and overrated. He'll never win a big fight again.

          When he KO'd Angulo, he was all of a sudden a threat to Sergio Martinez and would smoke any 154 lb guy.

          Now he struggles with Molina for 7 out of the 10 rounds, and it's Kirkland is a bum and Canelo will beat him.

          The truth always lies somewhere in the middle. Kirkland is still a top 154 lb fighter, and aside from Lara and Cotto, he has a shot to beat anyone at 154. Yes, he still has a shot to beat Molina. He just has to throw more and push Molina off him when he tries his holding "technique", like James did in the 10th.

          Kirkland is no threat to a Sergio or Floyd, never has been, and won't be until he shows he can consistantly beat good fighters like Angulo, Molina, etc.

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          • catalinul
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            #45
            Imagine what that makes Kirkland who got domianted by a ''joke''.

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            • deejd
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              #46
              Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
              How many Molina fight have you seen besides this one? I don't remember Molina ever fighting like he did against Kirkland. The whole reason why this matchup was supposed to exciting is that Molina is usually a high activity boxer that fights 3 minutes a round.
              This post^^^^ Which is why I also was very surprised to see this pathetic showing by Molina.

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              • deejd
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                #47
                Originally posted by catalinul
                Imagine what that makes Kirkland who got domianted by a ''joke''.
                Dominated by affectionate hugs?

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                • catalinul
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by davis828
                  Dominated by affectionate hugs?
                  No,by clean,hard punches and a great gameplan.

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                  • EdWins
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                    #49
                    LOL Kirkland got beat by a joke.

                    Kirkland FTL

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                    • deejd
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by catalinul
                      No,by clean,hard punches and a great gameplan.
                      If by clean, hard punches, you mean warm, friendly hugs... sure. Gameplan? Didn't know Ruiz was a trainer.

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