If Martinez has KO'ed 3 straight MW's, how is he "TOO SMALL" to fight @168?

[letsgobrady]

168 was pretty invisible back then. All of Hagler and Martinez' counter parts have moved up MULTIPLE weight classes. why Can't Serg do one more?

Floyd moved up 5
Manny has like 8 divisions
Marquez 6
Leonard 4
Hearns 7
Duran 8

Dare to be great, Sergio.

from the age of about 27 when sergio started his career he has fought in 3 weight classes now tell me how many weight classes has the fighters on that list fought from the age of 27 on.all the fighters on that list were teenagers when they became pro

[Dirk Diggler UK]

168 was pretty invisible back then. All of Hagler and Martinez' counter parts have moved up MULTIPLE weight classes. why Can't Serg do one more?

Floyd moved up 5
Manny has like 8 divisions
Marquez 6
Leonard 4
Hearns 7
Duran 8

Dare to be great, Sergio.

So what you're saying is that Sergio should fight someone like Stieglitz, right?

[Roman Moreno]

I am sure 168 was not what it is now back then. Hence why I said "Maybe Hagler should have moved up a weight class." Not maybe Hagler should have moved up to 168. And in another post in this thread I said, Hagler should have moved up to "168 or 175 whatever".

Na, i'm perfectly fine with using Hagler as my example. The whole point is some one who's dominating a weight class so much, that they need move up even though they don't want to.

You would have point using Hagler. If the TS was asking Martinez to move up to LHW. Which he is not BTW, that is what you're saying when using Hagler "maybe, should have" comparison.

if andre ward was mayweather or pacquiao than i bet sergio would but andre ward is not, sergio is ranked higher on the p4p list and is a lil more recognized than ward.sergio also has stated previously that he doesn't like catchweights

P4P is a mater of opinion. There is no factual P4P list. IMO Ward is higher in the P4P rankings. Not sure how much recognizable he is to Ward either. Maybe in the World but not sure in the States.

And, I don't care what Sergio has said about catch-weights he has fought at a catch-weight before And, he offered numerous times against different opponents catch-weight fights.

[turbotime]

from the age of about 27 when sergio started his career he has fought in 3 weight classes now tell me how many weight classes has the fighters on that list fought from the age of 27 on.all the fighters on that list were teenagers when they became pro

Sergio started out at 21.

[THE REED]

Can Ward, Froch, Dirrel etc etc make 160lbs? Or better yet... 154?

Yet Martinez can with no problem.

They clearly hold a noticeable size advantage over him... Its really not worth it.

[turbotime]

So what you're saying is that Sergio should fight someone like Stieglitz, right?

I think he could beat guys like Kessler, Stieglitz, Abraham, Froch

[-Spinal-]

If Mayweather wants to stand out and show he is the greatest fighter of his era, he would fight Sergio Martinez for the MW Ring title any where from 155-160. I already think he's the greatest fighter of this era but even to me, that would be an exclamation point on a great career beating Sergio for MW The Ring title.

Fighting Sergio at 150-154 would still be a very good win and a way more competitive fight than Mayweather-Pacquiao would be, IMO.

[turbotime]

If Mayweather wants to stand out and show he is the greatest fighter of his era, he would fight Sergio Martinez for the MW Ring title any where from 155-160. I already think he's the greatest fighter of this era but even to me, that would be an exclamation point on a great career beating Sergio for MW The Ring title.

Fighting Sergio at 150-154 would still be a very good win and a way more competitive fight than Mayweather-Pacquiao would be, IMO.

I agree. Floyd doesn't even need Pac at this point. He'd be the heavy favourite and the Martinez is a more dangerous fight

[THE REED]

If Mayweather wants to stand out and show he is the greatest fighter of his era, he would fight Sergio Martinez for the MW Ring title any where from 155-160. I already think he's the greatest fighter of this era but even to me, that would be an exclamation point on a great career beating Sergio for MW The Ring title.

Fighting Sergio at 150-154 would still be a very good win and a way more competitive fight than Mayweather-Pacquiao would be, IMO.

Yep.........

[-Spinal-]

You would have point using Hagler. If the TS was asking Martinez to move up to LHW. Which he is not BTW, that is what you're saying when using Hagler "maybe, should have" comparison.

Na, I wasn't to make an exact comparison, Jro. I got some one who dominated their weight class with consecutive TKO's and never moved up but still ended up being a great. Martinez is dominating his opponents with TKO's and doesn't want to move up.

I know what the TS is saying, BTW. Thanks for all the advice, I really appreciate, i'll see if I can give you green k for your troubles.