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  • #31
    Originally posted by New England View Post
    relying on a sturdy chin and footspeed

    again, by your logic, a 6'3" hw is as tall as they're going to get,
    that's right up the NFL's alley
    Groovy. But how are they to beat an NBAers monster reach if he too has a sturdy chin and footspeed?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by nomadman View Post
      Groovy. But how are they to beat an NBAers monster reach if he too has a sturdy chin and footspeed?
      Fighting on the inside, body punching always in your face style, like mexicans fight, or they can fight like Clemente Russo the guy I just puy some fights of him in the third page, who is 5'10 and beats 6'6 fighters and 6'7 on the outside.





      Last edited by ksan; 02-08-2012, 07:58 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by nomadman View Post
        Groovy. But how are they to beat an NBAers monster reach if he too has a sturdy chin and footspeed?

        head movement
        double and tripple jabs
        body work
        in and out motion or inside work if they can keep their hands free
        and a 12 round gas tank.

        shrink that ring.

        it's an uphill battle but it's been done.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by New England View Post
          head movement
          double and tripple jabs
          body work
          in and out motion or inside work if they can keep their hands free
          and a 12 round gas tank.

          shrink that ring.

          it's an uphill battle but it's been done.
          But what if the NBAer was a really good inside fighter like Bowe, had razor fast reactions, iron clad abs and a 15 round gastank? What then?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by New England View Post
            when did new zealand dominate at HW?

            and did said period of domination and decline coincide with the rise of two gigantic sporting en******?


            because americans have dominated the HW division throughout most of it's history
            and only recently have they has the talent been pulled away to other sports that are easier to access.


            and if you guys seriously think the athletes in rugby can hold a candle to the athletes in the NBA and skill players in the NFL i seriously suggest you take a better look at athletes in the sports



            the difference between the two arguments:
            one is completely bogus (new zealand's rugby league being responsible for the lack of talent in the HW division)
            and the other is not (The NFL and the NBA being responsible for the lack of talent in the division)
            Lol, basketball is a non contact sport and nfl players are the most unfit and one dimensional athletes in all of sports, they also wear helmets and pads because they are such *****s, you can't compare the skill and courage required to play real sports such as rugby union and Aussie rules to those contrived American "sports".

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            • #36
              Originally posted by nomadman View Post
              It's just as valid an excuse as the NFL crap anyway.
              It could be a valid excuse too there are many Rubgy players who have potential as well, Sonny Bill is more athletic than some NFL players maybe as athletic as any of them he's a really tough guy too it's gonna be interesting to see how he does

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              • #37
                Originally posted by nomadman View Post
                But what if the NBAer was a really good inside fighter like Bowe, had razor fast reactions, iron clad abs and a 15 round gastank? What then?


                i suppose he'd reduce your arguments to what they've become

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                  has there been a massive decline of boxing in New Zealand with a huge rise of rugby popularity? If so, then sure that could explain why there aren't too many heavyweights coming out of New Zealand.

                  But something tells me it doesn't quite compare to the massive decrease in quality fighters coming from the US and the massive decline of boxing in general in the US. Which was the point.

                  If New Zealand was dominating the heavyweight division for years, or at least pumping out a constant flow of quality fighters, for it only to suddenly fall the **** off over a span of 10 years, then it's a great comparison.
                  I've heard some people here disrespect Mundine he's a great athlete he went from Rugby to Boxing and has won a world title, he's still among the top 20 or top 10. If Sonny Bill focused on Boxing for a while he could do good

                  Originally posted by gingeralbino View Post
                  all Irelands best boxers are in the pub getting pissed
                  LOL HAHAHAHA

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    when did new zealand dominate at HW?

                    and did said period of domination and decline coincide with the rise of two gigantic sporting en******?


                    because americans have dominated the HW division throughout most of it's history
                    and only recently have they has the talent been pulled away to other sports that are easier to access.


                    and if you guys seriously think the athletes in rugby can hold a candle to the athletes in the NBA and skill players in the NFL i seriously suggest you take a better look at athletes in the sports



                    the difference between the two arguments:
                    one is completely bogus (new zealand's rugby league being responsible for the lack of talent in the HW division)
                    and the other is not (The NFL and the NBA being responsible for the lack of talent in the division)
                    New Zealand is a country of 5million people, its gonna be very hard for them to "dominate" other countries at any sport.

                    The point is that a lot of NZ rugby players could've maybe been HW boxers.

                    Yanks are not the only ones in the world that lose potential fighters to other sports.

                    You're just the only ones that cry about it.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      New Zealand is a country of 5million people, its gonna be very hard for them to "dominate" other countries at any sport.

                      The point is that a lot of NZ rugby players could've maybe been HW boxers.

                      Yanks are not the only ones in the world that lose potential fighters to other sports.

                      You're just the only ones that cry about it.
                      i usually get a big kick out of your posts, so you'll have to forgive me for putting you on full blast.


                      again, that supports my argument, not yours.
                      new zealand never dominated the division. american HW did.
                      what does that say about the talent pool in rugby?
                      the american talent pool has a tenure in the division, where they were dominant.
                      no country other than the states can make the argument because they never dominated the division before losing out on all of their large athletic talent


                      i love the term yanks. cant get enough of it. keep using it.
                      you know that we whipped your butts in the revolution?



                      danke meinen grobvaters


                      do you speak german?
                      no?!
                      you're welcome

                      that means "Thank my grandfathers"

                      if it werent for american men bailing you chaps out of WWII you'd be speaking german.

                      my grandfathers both bailed you boys out of wwII
                      both of them

                      danke meinen grovbaters


                      (keep in mind that i am only kidding, and that i do enjoy your posts, especially when david haye is barking for one of the klitschkos to rough him up. i dont want to offend you. but the "fat yanks" thing gets me every time. you know that the UK literally a baby step behind the states in terms of obesity, right?
                      Last edited by New England; 02-08-2012, 09:00 PM.

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