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Would you favour any Heavyweight in the history of boxing to beat Prime Ali?

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  • Originally posted by -Deal With It- View Post
    Arreola is even worse than Wepner.

    Wepner at least has one win over a ranked Heavyweight, while Arreola to this day, has yet to beat a ranked Heavyweight.
    Good point! I stand corrected you are quite right

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    • Originally posted by ScrotieMcBooger View Post
      Good point! I stand corrected you are quite right

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      • Originally posted by Mr. Invincible View Post
        Funny you have the nerve to call someone a troll and say Lennox whipped Vitali's a55 in the same sentence.
        He was landing bombs. Those uppercuts were ridiculous. Vitali took them like a champ but fuck that, Lennox was bashing his head in.

        I like Vitali so don't get on my case. I'm in agreement with you with Vitali being able to beat Ali. So don't go after the guys on your side.

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        • Originally posted by Superflo777 View Post
          That's not the whole story and you know it, but what do I care. Haters will always pick out the the half story and leave out the other part that doesn't fit their hating and flaming. Klit haters like you will discredit Vitali's domination and success facts, saying "facts don't mean anything" but when it comes to LL vs. VK suddenly all that matters is "Lennox TKO 6 - FACT", and the rest of the story is unimportant. Go back to your dream world where Lennox "whooped Vitali's ass in 6 rds", I'm out for today.

          lol, where do you get Klit haters from? Did I not say I would favor Vitali over Ali?

          Vitali, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis. That's hating?

          Lewis was landing bombs on him and Lennox wasn't anywhere near prime. I like Vitali but I'm not a nuthugger.

          You and that other dude are on some funny ****. You guys diss one fighter, then turn around and praise them. You two are some weird dudes. First Vitali's resume is filled with journeymen, and then next moment your all up Vitali's ass against Lennox.

          Uhhh. Flip flopper much.

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          • Originally posted by -Deal With It- View Post
            Arreola is even worse than Wepner.

            Wepner at least has one win over a ranked Heavyweight, while Arreola to this day, has yet to beat a ranked Heavyweight.
            Actually he had absolutely no significant wins at all which solidifies your true agenda.

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            • Originally posted by -Deal With It- View Post
              O'rly?

              How about you list Vitali's top 5 career best wins so we can have a good laugh.
              :ellerbe:
              How about you get a life and stop asking people to make lists for you.
              Make your own damn list moron. I don't have to prove anything to you.

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              • Originally posted by Mr. Invincible View Post
                How about you get a life and stop asking people to make lists for you.
                Make your own damn list moron. I don't have to prove anything to you.
                You spout the same rubbish over and over and don't back a thing up. Man up and show the list!

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                • Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
                  You go watch his fights with Ali again. He looked constantly for the left hook. When he wanted to do damage, he looked for the left hook and would even lunge into the left hook.

                  Ali wasn't that much faster than Holyfield. The point wasn't Holyfield is faster, the point was Ali's usual advantage of being completely in a different class of speed isn't such a large difference when compared to Holyfield who was extremely athletic and that is not debatable.

                  Objective view >>> Mainstream thought.
                  I don't need to watch his fights. You do. When you claim Frazier ONLY looked to land
                  a left hook you are wrong and obviously know little about him.

                  Your view is is not objective. It's just wrong. If you don't know about something you shouldn't talk about it. And Ali had significant advantages in speed over Holyfield. Saying otherwise is delusional. It's clear to see which is why it's"mainstream."

                  Is the Ali fight the only fight you have watched with Frazier? Sure seems like it.
                  Last edited by joseph5620; 01-18-2012, 06:22 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by ScrotieMcBooger View Post
                    Journeyman from 1965-1975 = Top-10 "Contender" today. Saying someone's a "Top-10 Contender" in today's Heavyweight division is like saying someone's the smartest spastic in the Special Ed class
                    Hahahaha hilarious!! You refer to the Klitlickers class!!

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                    • Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                      I don't need to watch his fights. You do. When you claim Frazier ONLY looked to land
                      a left hook you are wrong and obviously know little about him.

                      Your view is is not objective. It's just wrong. If you don't know about something you should not talk. And Ali had significant advantages in speed over Holyfield. Saying otherwise is delusional. It's clear to see which is why it's"mainstream."

                      Is the Ali fight the only fight you have watched with Frazier? Sure seems like it.
                      You realize this is the internet right? You can watch videos all the time. So to play the dumb ass card of "you never watched him fight before" is just ******.

                      Look. I never said all Frazier does is the left hook. I said he looked to land the left hook only. Which is fucking true. Even professional boxers mention that Frazier looked too much for the left hook. You'll probably come back with some bullshit like "well, professional boxers don't always know..." yeah whatever.

                      And Ali does not have significant SPEED over Holyfield. HANDSPEED =//= FOOT SPEED. Holyfield could keep up, Ali could probably get off faster than him but to say Holyfield wouldn't keep up, you obviously got blinders on aka biased.

                      Another mainstream belief was that when the sun goes down, it was shunning the people so they needed to make sacrifices to the sun so it will come up the next day.

                      So, stick to your mainstream belief if you want to. All it means is, you can't think for yourself. Instead you regurgitate what others have said without knowing why they said it, just to please the people around you.

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